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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275070
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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275076
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It was nice of trump to host a special needs event last night at his resort

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: Dirt] #8275088
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Originally Posted by Dirt
The chinese gotta be scratching their heads over how north americans can produce wild animal pelts so cheap. They gotta be thinking, we couldn't produce pelts that cheap with child or slave labor?

They cant be that smart.......if they would just hold out a bit more they would get our fur for half of what we are getting now.

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275089
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Wait....there's a fur market?


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275095
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Just curious to what smarter people than me figure will happen to our fur market if retaliatory tariffs are imposed on goods we export (including fur)? I'm mainly thinking of China of course, which I believe is still the dominant player on the international fur market scene.

This is assuming that Trump makes good on his promise to levy heavy tariffs on incoming Chinese goods.


Good question Peeler,

I wonder what tariffs are already in place on China fur imports? I seem to recall that the most recent "boom" around 2013 happened when some of the big China buyers figured a way to get around the tariffs? And the "bust" that occurred shortly after was when they were caught and those tariffs were enforced?

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275155
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If i remember right, those tariffs are between 15 to 30 percent for wild furskins and were much lower for minkskins. I thought the import of rawskins got banned during covid?

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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: walleye101] #8275234
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Just curious to what smarter people than me figure will happen to our fur market if retaliatory tariffs are imposed on goods we export (including fur)? I'm mainly thinking of China of course, which I believe is still the dominant player on the international fur market scene.

This is assuming that Trump makes good on his promise to levy heavy tariffs on incoming Chinese goods.


Good question Peeler,

I wonder what tariffs are already in place on China fur imports? I seem to recall that the most recent "boom" around 2013 happened when some of the big China buyers figured a way to get around the tariffs? And the "bust" that occurred shortly after was when they were caught and those tariffs were enforced?


Yep. If I recall correctly some of the bigger players in the fur market over there got sent to prison with lengthy sentences.


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: Giant Sage] #8275246
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That's the way it's looking. The pieces are falling into place.


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275282
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with 2 dollar rats and 3 dollar coon a 25% tariff wont make or break anyone. china dont buy the high end fur. the coyote and beaver" boom" was north america driven. good cats go to europe

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275296
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So if China already has 15-30 tariffs on raw fur then maybe anything Trump might put on should be considered retaliatory. Any way you look at it, if the China Tariffs happen to get lifted due to a larger tariff kerfuffle with China it could benefit the fur market.

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: wallfur] #8275298
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Originally Posted by wallfur
with 2 dollar rats and 3 dollar coon a 25% tariff wont make or break anyone. china dont buy the high end fur. the coyote and beaver" boom" was north america driven. good cats go to europe


Maybe the 25% tariff is one reason they don't buy high end fur, instead focusing on those 2-3 dollar skins.

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275301
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What never ceases to amaze me is that $20-$40 worth of beaver fur gets turned into a $200 hat or a $400 pair of gauntlets.. apparently I need to learn to tan and sew

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275302
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nah even where they were going around the tarrifs they didnt buy the good stuff....have you ever bought a high quality item with the words"MADE IN CHINA" on it.....everything coming out of china is cheap and normally very low quaility.

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8275305
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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
What never ceases to amaze me is that $20-$40 worth of beaver fur gets turned into a $200 hat or a $400 pair of gauntlets.. apparently I need to learn to tan and sew

Since i do both, i can tell you the trapping, skinning, and put up takes more skill and work and danger than the sewing part.


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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: Dirt] #8275308
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
What never ceases to amaze me is that $20-$40 worth of beaver fur gets turned into a $200 hat or a $400 pair of gauntlets.. apparently I need to learn to tan and sew

Since i do both, i can tell you the trapping, skinning, and put up takes more skill and work and danger than the sewing part.

Maybe the missus is getting the sewing machine she wants for Christmas after all lol

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275314
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Simple fix don’t sell until the surplus is used up. Things would change no matter what the tariffs are.

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275334
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Just have to wait and see, this is a negotiation in progress....

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: nyrat] #8275398
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Originally Posted by nyrat
gfw said something about this


GFW are NOT Trump supporters.
Not sure if they’re outright democrats or if it’s business related, or both……..

Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: Paul Dobbins] #8275412
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
The art of the deal at work....

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Re: Tariffs and the fur market [Re: beaverpeeler] #8275499
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x2 cheift if there wasnt any to be had they would be wanted look how fast things disappear when they say there is a shortage of something some cant figure this out

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