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In the late1950's starlings were a big problem in our mink ranch, eating the feed off of the cage tops especially in the winter. Gramp got the bright idea to poison them with strychnine mixed into mink feed. He put these "bait" piles on boards on top of the guard fence posts. Killed a lot of starlings. Also killed anything that ate the dead birds, which was most of the cats in town. I remember riding in a car with my mother and starlings bouncing off the windshield when a flock flew over us as we neared home. Killed a few of the mink, if a bird died on a pen and they pulled them thru the wire and ate them. Jaguar in our zoo died at the same time, Dad suspected he ate a bird too!!
Re: Few thousand starlings stopped for a drink
[Re: Lazarus]
#8279242 12/05/2411:01 PM12/05/2411:01 PM
They decoy like Mallards. We don't have ducks here like we used to, not worth the effort to hunt them anymore. Figured out I can carve a few starling decoys and they respond well.
Carved out of foam. 2-3 rustle coats for texture. Painted with UV mallard paints. I had a post a year or so ago about hunting them. Set a goal of 1k for the year over the decoys and got close to it.
Re: Few thousand starlings stopped for a drink
[Re: Flipper 56]
#8279324 12/06/2402:52 AM12/06/2402:52 AM
A Swedish crow trap, with a smaller ladder type top, will catch many thousands of starlings and sparrows. You only have to bait it once, if you leave live birds in it. My friend Sandy used to catch 14,000 plus starlings and sparrows a year in a single trap.
I have a bought sparrow trap. It has 3 compartments, 1 on each side that are traps and a third compartment, in the middle, that the sparrows can get into, but not out of, to act as bait birds when you reset the trap. It works well, except that catching 2 sparrows at a time and having to reset is time consuming and makes no real dent in the sparrow population.
My friend Sandy had a sparrow sized gap, version of the Swedish Crow trap that worked fantastic. She usually caught around 12,000 to 15,000 sparrows and starlings a year in it. It was basically a wire box, 6' tall on the sides, sloping down to 5' in the middle, with a 3" framed gap in the middle. It's footprint on the ground was 6' by 6' The birds would land on the peaks on the sides, hop down the wire to the gap and drop in. They could not fly back out. She rarely baited it. She took out the dead sparrows and starlings once a day and the live ones continuously lured more in. She often would catch a few hundred birds a day during the fall.
Here's a video of a Swedish Crow trap. They are called ladder traps too.
Sandy"s trap didn't have the rungs and worked fine without them. The gap should be sized for what you're trying to catch.
I just quickly put a trap together, out of some existing chickenwire panels, for my friend Ralph once, where I just left the top flat with a gap in the middle, to catch pigeons and it worked to.
You need to make the door big enough to easily get dead or live birds out, if you want them live, but small enough that you can block the bait birds from escaping.
During the migrations, you will have to take birds out several times a day or it will get so full you won't catch any more.
Cowbirds and Cooper's hawks frequently got in Sandy's trap too.
Keith
Keith
Re: Few thousand starlings stopped for a drink
[Re: Flipper 56]
#8279513 12/06/2408:59 AM12/06/2408:59 AM
When the duck farms were working they'd often leave the outdoor feeders open, it was a magnet to starlings, tens of thousands, The farms used propane cannons to try and scare them away, the starlings would jump up at the bang and settle right back, lol The huge flying flocks would do those crazy synchronized movements which were cool to watch, The blue angels have nothing on them.... Used to pop them off the bird feeder, we had a cat that would come out and grab them, but wouldn't eat them, but would eat every English sparrow...cat had a discerning taste.
Re: Few thousand starlings stopped for a drink
[Re: Flipper 56]
#8279553 12/06/2409:55 AM12/06/2409:55 AM
A few of the airports that I have worked on over the years use the ladder traps for Stallings and pigeons. They would then be used as bait in raptor traps.