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Fur trade is what opened west
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Don't know author or title....but heard on radio show......author talk about how trappers opened up continental  US territory west of ohio...mostly because of beavers......more than farming or conquest .....maybe less than 2 years written...... sounds like its loaded with facts and history...not some flowery off topic story book.......would someone know of it...... 
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Re: Fur trade is what opened west
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I would suspect that the gold rush in CA is what really got the west going, trapping may have started it on a small scale but gold drew alot more in. The fur trade opened all the routes used by the gold rush. Many of the old traders and trappers acted as guides during all the western migrations. The gold rush moved more people west, but didn't really open much new territory.  
 
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I would suspect that the gold rush in CA is what really got the west going, trapping may have started it on a small scale but gold drew alot more in. The fur trade opened all the routes used by the gold rush. Many of the old traders and trappers acted as guides during all the western migrations. The gold rush moved more people west, but didn't really open much new territory. Exactly  
 
  
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Re: Fur trade is what opened west
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I would suspect that the gold rush in CA is what really got the west going, trapping may have started it on a small scale but gold drew alot more in. The fur trade opened all the routes used by the gold rush. Many of the old traders and trappers acted as guides during all the western migrations. The gold rush moved more people west, but didn't really open much new territory. Furthermore if not for American fur traders and trappers much of the west may have become Canadian rather than American.  Also trappers glowing accounts of Oregon's farming potential is what really got the masses headed west several years before gold was discovered.  
 
  
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Re: Fur trade is what opened west
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The north American continent was opened, and explored by the fur traders, starting back in the 1500's
 
 
 
 
  The Beaver Men 
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  Lays it out pretty well. We visited the Mari Sandoz musuem this summer. She said i interviews she would not let real history get in the way of a good story. I would definitely read other sources. Hers may be a good read, just not the best as far as credible history.  
 
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Just met ...Sunday ......at cemetery....placing Christmas decorations.....a woman in her 70's.........said her father's side history....goes back to original Mayflower landing...in 1620s......didn't think fast enough to ask if trapping was in their history....first time in 60 + years I've seen anyone at her family's grave.......maybe I'll ask her next 60 when I see her again..... 
 
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Am wondering if any north American/Canadian Indigenous people  on this forum.......have a different handed down history perspective of European trapping constantly moving west 
 
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The railroad opened the west. Nope, just like my reply about the gold rush. The railroad simply made it easier and faster to move more people West. The RR followed routes that had been being walked and rode for decades, starting with the men of the fur trade. In fact, many of the fur trade men worked as guides for the railroads, showing them the routes through the mountains.  
 
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The railroad definitely opened up the west to settlement The railroad was the first to use Government funded capitalism which was the huge factor in settling the west. Before the railroad it took months for horse drawn wagons to cross the continent,after the last spike was driven it only took a few days,And it was a flood thereafter. 
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