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Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs #8282672
12/09/24 10:50 PM
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Rochester, MN
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I’ve used both standard and heavy duty Berks for years. Am thinking about moving to Pogos.

Are both good or is one better


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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8283026
12/10/24 01:19 PM
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Rochester, MN
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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8283073
12/10/24 02:32 PM
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Northern Maine
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Wolffangs for me but we have rocky ground here.


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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8283094
12/10/24 03:23 PM
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Rodney,Ohio
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Finned super stakes for me

Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8283098
12/10/24 03:29 PM
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I've used Iowa Earth Anchors (open-ended), HD Berkshires and now use Wolf Fangs. I won't use anything else.

In my experience, the open-ended anchors would constantly stick to the driver, even in dry dirt, and I kept busting the ends off the HD Berkshires. I have not one complaint about Wolf Fangs since I started using them and I trap in some tough dirt.

I also make my own Wolf fangs and have just recently went to pulling them up by drilling down beside them with a 2" auger. If you gear up with them, be sure to buy you a Tom Stalker driver. It will last you a very long time!


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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8283236
12/10/24 06:32 PM
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W NY
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In my varied soil conditions I've settled on wolffangs. Lots of rocky ground here and they work and are the best bang for my buck


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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8283279
12/10/24 07:32 PM
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I have never used pogos, but have used wolf fangs and hd berks. I like the wolf fangs much better. Some batches of the HD berkshires the cup for the driver bends and the driver slips off in hard soil.


Steve
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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8283394
12/10/24 09:41 PM
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Rochester, MN
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I’ve had too many of the HD Berk tips bend out. The standard Berks have held a lot of fur. Read that as coyotes to beavers. The advantage of berk standards is they hold and don’t need specific drivers.

But lately, I’ve had some critters pull the whole works out of the ground and believe a wider disposable would be better.


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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8285298
12/13/24 10:20 PM
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I switched to strictly using wolf fang after trying others. The reasons mentioned above were part of it but I also had issues with drivers bending with rocky soil.
My stalker wf driver is so much better.

Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8285404
12/14/24 12:20 PM
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East Texas
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Mostly wolf fangs or their clones

I have some super stakes and I do not have 100% confidence in them. I think that is mostly because they are easier to pull up than the wolf fangs.

I bought about 50 Ausable wolf fangs the other day and they are visibly larger than the wolf fangs. Still use the same driver

Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8285407
12/14/24 12:36 PM
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Firth, Nebraska
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I only use berks now. Don’t need a special driver just a sharpened rebar stake works great. They hold everything I catch here from coyotes to coon to beaver just fine. Nice and light too.
Jim

Last edited by jabNE; 12/14/24 12:39 PM.

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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8285425
12/14/24 02:09 PM
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Drags, short pieces of chain with a quick link to go around trees, or a thermos of hot water to freeze the chains in

Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8285608
12/15/24 08:51 AM
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Much depends on the soil TYPE and the soil CONDITION (wet or dry). For tighter soils ( clay, silty clay, clayer sands etc.) a homemade Iowa disposable works fine and you can "cut and leave" with little $ expended when in frozen soil. If the soil is gravel and stoney or even sand, some type of wolf fang adds more surface area to the "dead man" anchor. Minnesota soil usually has some sand in the south and west with gravel and stones as you go east and north so you will have to be the judge. Retrievability is totally dependent on the frozen soil condition as fangs are rather pricey to use and then leave when the frost is more than a couple of inches. Grapple and drags of any sort win out with time and expense if trapping dryland in those times and conditions. Guess its your call as to when and where you are operating and having an easy connect device between trap chain and anchor can give you some flexibility when setting. For me here, in this farming country with silty-clay-loam rock hard frozen soil in December, I use a homemade metal conduit in a drilled hole with a rotary hammer and "cut and pull" if froze in when I am done with that location. Snares always get a smooth (non re-bar) stake as they sit in place longer than a foot trap for me. Nut welded and a 3/4" impact to remove. My experience........................................ the mike

Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8286438
12/17/24 07:38 AM
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I exclusively used wolf fangs when I still used a lot of “disposables”. They’re probably the “toughest” anchors type on the market that’s still cheap enough to be called disposable.

I’m back to 95% rebar these days though.

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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8286447
12/17/24 07:58 AM
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I used earth anchors quite a bit, with all chain, no cable. I've went to a lot of drags or chaining off to trees these days. But most all of my traps have earth anchors on the end of their chain. They anchor solid, and you can usually drive them through about anything but solid bedrock. They are a pain to pull though. On the other hand, if you are in an area where you are worried about theft, most thieves won't have the equipment to pull them or cut the chain, as long as you don't have a quick link connecting the trap to the anchor chain the trap is most likely going to be there when you get back, maybe worse for wear, but there. Warning, if you have all welded connections like I do, take a pair of bolt cutters with you when pulling, in case you can't get the anchor up.

Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: jabNE] #8286713
12/17/24 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jabNE
I only use berks now. Don’t need a special driver just a sharpened rebar stake works great. They hold everything I catch here from coyotes to coon to beaver just fine. Nice and light too.
Jim

Same for me.

Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8289212
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I’ve used the pogos for going on 12 years with no complaints. In our soil conditions here, loamy-sandy I’ve found nothing better, faster, or cheaper than them. Will hold whatever is on the other end with little to no effort. I run 12”-15” of 1/8 cable with about 6 links or so of #2 twist link for a transition to my 18” of trap chain. Provides many swivel points and I’ve never had a failure from the setup. Now my end is another story….. lol


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Re: Pogos vs Berks/Duckbills/wWoldfangs [Re: Teacher] #8289617
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HD berks for me also.

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