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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Boco] #8283454
12/11/24 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Sorry for the loss.
When animal rights people lose their dog to a trap,they feel the same way about trappers as you feel about coyotes.

WOW,,you are a real peach.


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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283505
12/11/24 07:35 AM
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But he ain't wrong....

Used to have some kids culling blue crabs, if you cull crabs your going to get bit, even with gloves , and it hurts..
They'd get bit and start taking out their pain and anger out on the crab by smashing it. I'd yell at them, "you can't blame a crab for doing what crabs do....'

Coyotes are going to do what coyotes do....

Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283508
12/11/24 07:41 AM
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I feel like there is a paul harvey version of this story


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: I hate coyotes [Re: gcs] #8283513
12/11/24 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gcs
But he ain't wrong....

Used to have some kids culling blue crabs, if you cull crabs your going to get bit, even with gloves , and it hurts..
They'd get bit and start taking out their pain and anger out on the crab by smashing it. I'd yell at them, "you can't blame a crab for doing what crabs do....'

Coyotes are going to do what coyotes do....

And if a bear breaks into your camp and tears it apart love the bear.Just a bear being a bear.If a anti steals or destroys your traps.Love them.Just a anti being a anti....Very dangerous way of thinking.No thanks.I will always stand up and protect trapping,hunting,fishing,and our great outdoors with my last breath.


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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: gcs] #8283514
12/11/24 07:50 AM
12/11/24 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gcs
But he ain't wrong....

Used to have some kids culling blue crabs, if you cull crabs your going to get bit, even with gloves , and it hurts..
They'd get bit and start taking out their pain and anger out on the crab by smashing it. I'd yell at them, "you can't blame a crab for doing what crabs do....'

Coyotes are going to do what coyotes do....


Sorry about the dog but I agree. Nature being nature.

Imputing some evil motive onto coyotes is Walt Disney cartoon kind of thinking.

Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Blaine County] #8283515
12/11/24 07:51 AM
12/11/24 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by gcs
But he ain't wrong....

Used to have some kids culling blue crabs, if you cull crabs your going to get bit, even with gloves , and it hurts..
They'd get bit and start taking out their pain and anger out on the crab by smashing it. I'd yell at them, "you can't blame a crab for doing what crabs do....'

Coyotes are going to do what coyotes do....


Sorry about the dog but I agree. Nature being nature.

Imputing some evil motive onto coyotes is Walt Disney cartoon kind of thinking.

Some how I knew your answer would be that


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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283517
12/11/24 07:52 AM
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Sounds like you need more coyote houndsmen in your area. Ill promise the last thing a coyote is doing in our area is running to investigate a barking dog. The minute they hear barking, they are making an exit stategy. Hope your buddies dog pulls through this, sure dont like seeing any dog in that shape....

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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283518
12/11/24 07:54 AM
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I’ll be honest; if a coyote killed my dog I’d probably hate them for the rest of my life. Although I do understand the nature of things as I’m sure we all do.

It was a bad and unfortunate experience and I’m sure it happens all the time.
So sad for this little beagle.

Perhaps he has already met up with my Sampson and they are doing fun beagle things together. Hopefully he is teaching Sampy how to hunt bunnies because Sampy WANTED bunnies!!!

Re: I hate coyotes [Re: midlander] #8283520
12/11/24 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by midlander
Sounds like you need more coyote houndsmen in your area. Ill promise the last thing a coyote is doing in our area is running to investigate a barking dog. The minute they hear barking, they are making an exit stategy. Hope your dog pulls through this, sure dont like seeing any dog in that shape....

There alot of coyote houndsman in the area.Its the smaller dogs like beagles that are being attacked.The dog died.


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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283525
12/11/24 07:59 AM
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Your being emotional, I didn't say you can't hate coyotes, hate all you want, kill em all, nobody cares, Hate bears too, but it is what it is....

Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283526
12/11/24 08:02 AM
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Why is a rabbit dog so far from the hunter that the hunter could not put a load of #6 into a coyote or three?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: I hate coyotes [Re: danny clifton] #8283529
12/11/24 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Why is a rabbit dog so far from the hunter that the hunter could not put a load of #6 into a coyote or three?

Snowshoe hare that can at times circle a mile or more


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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283530
12/11/24 08:08 AM
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Coyotes don't love or hate. Neither do dogs. They're animals being animals.

If I'm wrong, maybe they can talk it out next time. And if animals have feelings like people, we all might want to.consider different ways to spend our time.

For the second time, SORRY about your friend's dog. It sucks.

And, kill every coyote in your state if you want. They won't know that your avenging the dog or that you hate them.

Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283531
12/11/24 08:08 AM
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The only good coyote is a dead coyote [Linked Image]


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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Blaine County] #8283533
12/11/24 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Coyotes don't love or hate. Neither do dogs. They're animals being animals.

If I'm wrong, maybe they can talk it out next time. And if animals have feelings like people, we all might want to.consider different ways to spend our time.

For the second time, SORRY about your friend's dog. It sucks.

And, kill every coyote in your state if you want. They won't know that your avenging the dog or that you hate them.

Theres such a thing as protecting your own


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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283536
12/11/24 08:14 AM
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I wish you good luck in exterminating every evil coyote in North America.

Re: I hate coyotes [Re: danny clifton] #8283539
12/11/24 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I feel like there is a paul harvey version of this story

Yes,
There is, it was back in the 80s. I don't remember the details. What I do remember is when I herd the story I was on the trappline In AZ. It made me think of how peaple humanize their pets. Arizona lost there trapping because of pets. Most trappers would agree that humonizing dogs is the # 1 reason we have lost most of our trapping in a time where peaple make decisions on emotions rather than reality. It's sad that Bruce's friend lost his Beagle to coyotes. It's also sad when some one loses there life to a grizzly or a lion or tiger ect.
I do understand Bocos point. If the man who lost his dog to a coyote had lost his Dog to a trap. He probably would not have been very happy about that situation either. In life things happen and and if peaple respond with nothing but hatred and emotion to unfortunate circumstances that accur in the natural world we will be a world of un natural law and bondage.


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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283545
12/11/24 08:26 AM
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I feel like when people see the threat it becomes much more intolerable to them. A dog dies of Lyme disease, parvo virus, kidney disease, etc….they can somehow accept it. A younger dog dies by the hands of another animal in an “accidental” setting, then they become angry. I know I would be. I don’t think it is wrong to be angry. Frustrated, overwhelmed with grief, and the like.
Losing a beloved friend and companion is difficult no matter what.
My dog has a mass in her throat and while palliative care is making her life tolerable, I am still angry that it happened to her.
It is the cards we are dealt and I guess ..no one or no Thing is actually responsible for it or caused it.

Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Blaine County] #8283551
12/11/24 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
I wish you good luck in exterminating every evil coyote in North America.

Here in Maine anyways its a battle but we are definitely knocking back the coyote population


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Re: I hate coyotes [Re: Bruce T] #8283605
12/11/24 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
Originally Posted by gcs
But he ain't wrong....

Used to have some kids culling blue crabs, if you cull crabs your going to get bit, even with gloves , and it hurts..
They'd get bit and start taking out their pain and anger out on the crab by smashing it. I'd yell at them, "you can't blame a crab for doing what crabs do....'

Coyotes are going to do what coyotes do....

And if a bear breaks into your camp and tears it apart love the bear.Just a bear being a bear.If a anti steals or destroys your traps.Love them.Just a anti being a anti....Very dangerous way of thinking.No thanks.I will always stand up and protect trapping,hunting,fishing,and our great outdoors with my last breath.


And you can't claim the pedophile and rapists they are just made like that and can't help it. They are just doing what they do.

Not my way of thinking but some bleeding hears think that way. Myself I believe you eliminate the problem quickly and permanently.

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