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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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 12/19/24 01:59 PM
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As far as ashes go I just make a tin pan with high sides to fit inside of stove to collect ashes.  On my new stove I haven't cleaned ashes, yet it is in the tin tray just dump it.   A little ash in the stove not even enough to clean up. 
 
  
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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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 12/19/24 05:25 PM
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I love my 46 yr old Timberline, good luck finding one tho! 
 
  
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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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 12/19/24 05:36 PM
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I have two older Quadra-Fire 3100's. Both are pre_ACC, that's the automatic combustion control Waggler mentioned. Mine don't have that so you can have them roaring like a jet engine and shut them completely down. You can also load them and damp them down to where you can get twelve or more hours out of them. You don't get a lot of heat like that but they stay lit. I hate rebuilding a fire when I come home from work or having one go out overnight. I light the Quadra-Fire in November and burn that same fire through mid-March. Creosote is not an issue as long as your burning well-seasoned wood.  Qudra-Fires used to be rated the cleanest-burning non-catalytic wood stoves by the EPA. Don't know if they still are.   Anyhow, all the newer ones have ACC. And from what I've seen they aren't the same quality of the older ones. They are lighter for one thing.  Mine don't have ash pans like Vinke said but I know some of the newer models do.  I agree that if your current stove is decent quality you should probably hang on to it. Or find and older Quadra-Fire.     
 
  
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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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 12/19/24 06:46 PM
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Just called a dealer about a central boiler, 11,000 for the older non compliant stove and 15,000 for new epa compliant stove. Those prices are for just the stove. I can't justify that.    I think I paid  over 13 k for my heat master installed.   After seeing how easy it was I could have saved money and put it in myself.   That said prices have gone up.   I was going through so much lp and the house still would not get above 68 running non stop  I figured as many tanks as it would take me a winter in 4 years the outdoor  paid for its self in lp savings and saves about 240$ a year in electric since I turn off the hot water heater 6 months of the year.  In my case it was worth it with my big old leaky house and no good place for an indoor unit.    Advantage over indoor unit with the outdoor unit is  no smoke, ash, dirt, bugs and zero fire hazard in the house.  Unlimited hot water is nice also.    It's one of those things that stinks to pay for but after a few years of good results going on 6 or 7 I think  now  I no longer think about the price. It's paid for itself and nearly free heat other than time and saw stuff.       I would look at heatmore if I were going to get another one.   
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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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 12/19/24 07:15 PM
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I have a Baker double eagle that i have been using since 1988! The stove is in the basement,and keeps it cozy on cold nights 
 
  
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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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 12/19/24 07:42 PM
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Just called a dealer about a central boiler, 11,000 for the older non compliant stove and 15,000 for new epa compliant stove. Those prices are for just the stove. I can't justify that.  I have Heatmor and love it. 20+ years and going strong. In real $$ saved $80,000 in fuel oil and electric, all the heat and hot water you need. With your tree business, you have all the wood you need. My neighbor loves it, people pay me to take trees down and remove the wood and I burn it in my boiler.  
 
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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: Providence Farm]
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 12/19/24 10:03 PM
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  with those #s I wouldn't even think about it.   900' is a stretch my unit is 160' from the house  and no issues. my installer told me I could run pipe up and heat dads house as well  and it's   close to that.  I was not sure even though he said it would be fine.  it's not just the distance and cost of pipe but it's also up a hill.  I'll probably do a boiler just for the shop and keep a wood stove in the house. I'm not sure how much longer I'll keep doing tree work at my current pace, I'm trying to get everything I want before I quit.  
 
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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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 12/19/24 10:35 PM
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  with those #s I wouldn't even think about it.   900' is a stretch my unit is 160' from the house  and no issues. my installer told me I could run pipe up and heat dads house as well  and it's   close to that.  I was not sure even though he said it would be fine.  it's not just the distance and cost of pipe but it's also up a hill.  I'll probably do a boiler just for the shop and keep a wood stove in the house. I'm not sure how much longer I'll keep doing tree work at my current pace, I'm trying to get everything I want before I quit.   Easy now Your sounding like me.  I'm not going to keep working all this over time  just got to get....  and I get that and move the goal post.       watch out for those moving Goal post.  
 
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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: JTfromWV]
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 12/20/24 06:07 AM
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Can you use the boiler as a business expense. You would be using it to get rid of the scrap wood. Set up a 1000 bf kiln and use the boiler for heat, business. expense  
 
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Re: Thinking about new wood stove
[Re: JTfromWV]
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 12/20/24 07:38 AM
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Can you use the boiler as a business expense. You would be using it to get rid of the scrap wood. I probably could but not this year, going on a end of year spending spree for trucks/equipment and we bought 200 acres this fall, my savings is taking a beating. Boiler makes sense for heating the shop but probably not the house. As far as moving the goal post before I quit tree, I'm making a list and checking things off it, one more piece of land , debt free, newer used truck, 100k in savings. Hopefully 5 years if I stay sane and healthy.  
 
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