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Thinking about new wood stove #8287927
12/19/24 10:54 AM
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I got my current stove in 2021, it was about the only thing I could find at the time in stock in December and it's served well. The current stove does not have a grate and we end up shoveling ashes or it gets to full of ashes and chunks of wood fall out the door when we open it.

Long story short, I'm looking for the Cadillac of woodstoves. 6" flue and will be our primary heat source in our 1500 sq ft drafty trailer house.

I've looked at pacific energy, blaze king. What am I missing? Budget is not a major concern as I hope to have the stove basically forever.

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Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8287933
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The problem with most new wood stoves is that they are made in such a way that you can't dampen them down all the way, they burn through tge wood in an uncontroled way. This is to meet emission regulations. Buy an old used one.


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Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: waggler] #8287935
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Originally Posted by waggler
The problem with most new wood stoves is that they are made in such a way that you can't dampen them down all the way, they burn through tge wood in an uncontroled way. This is to meet emission regulations. Buy an old used one.

Blaze king in particular claims long burn times due to the catalytic converter thing, I'm skeptical that it will be low maitencie and trouble free though.

We are also very limited on space, these double wide wernt designed with wood stoves in mind

Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8287937
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I bought a Timber Wolf about three years ago. Burns good for eight hours. I load it up at night, when I wake up there are usually good red-hot coals. I then put kindlin wood directly over the coals along with a full firebox of seasoned hardwood.

Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8287939
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It's been about 20 years since I bought the duch west size large that's in my other house. it's catalytic has grating ashes fall through and can be moved back and forth with shovel when burn down and the coals stay ashes fall into the ash pan. it heated that house very well the first 10 years or so but seems to burn wood faster now. I have had to replace the catalytic part once. it takes a 20 or 22" log.

what I look for is first an ash pan I don't like digging ashes out of a hot stove fire box. #2 I want the largest longest fire box so I can use larger pieces of wood.


edit the model is duch west is the model the company is Vermont castings

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Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8287943
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https://forgenflame.com/products/quadra-fire-4300-step-top-wood-stove

I have a 3100 step top

burns very clean

on single digit and sub zero days I wish I had the 4300

I have a 1400sq foot old not the best insulated house and most days above 0 it is no trouble to keep 70-72

bought mine in 2007 as a used flor model form the store so it had been burned a bit at the store

I have replaced the fire brick twice in that time probably have a few more years till my next change of brick other wise nothing but door seals as they get compacted.

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Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8287951
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I use an older Blaze King, I almost never have to take out ashes, I think due to 8" flu. Burns all night, We've had -48* and a week that never made it to zero. Only wood we got is pine, wife keeps it 80* in the house of 1500sqft.

Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8287954
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I have an older blaze king, it works good. My other cabin has a home made stove I built using the front of a cheap camp stove from my wall tent, and welded it to an old propane tank to make it bigger and thicker wall gauge

Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8287977
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Blaze Kings are good units. A lot of stoves made now are built to appeal to a person wanting something pretty that will hold a one and done fire.

Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: waggler] #8287984
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Originally Posted by waggler
The problem with most new wood stoves is that they are made in such a way that you can't dampen them down all the way, they burn through tge wood in an uncontroled way. This is to meet emission regulations. Buy an old used one.

Wonder if a flue damper might regulate those new stoves?


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Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8287986
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Blaze KIng Princess.

Two Eco Fans on top, the kind that the heat from the stove spins them, no electricity needed.

Buy once, cry once, warm the rest of your life. They are 6 inch. They have the clean out at the bottom. The best stove money can buy. You don't need a King size for your place. But you could if you wanted to.


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Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8288012
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The q fire that Pete recommended
I believe they are the only epa approved stove without a catalytic converter
Made in WA still ,,;; I believe….


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Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8288019
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The Quadra fire 5700 with its 3 cubic foot fire box does seem awesome, taking 22" pieces of wood is nice also. I can't tell from the website if its a 6 or 8" flue, I really don't want to upgrade to 8" as my 6" is brand new more less and installed very well. I also can't tell how ashes come out, if my stove now had a better system for ashes I would be content with it.

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The key is keeping whatever stove you get sealed up good. My blaze king is easy to control, my homemade stove not so much. The front having been designed for use in a wall tent, doesn't seal very well (even with a rope) so all the damping happens at the exhaust end, which you either get a smokey smolder, or you crack it open just enough and it's on like donkey kong the stove will be glowing red in 20 minutes and I'm gonna have to open the cabin door to stay under 100°

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Another option to investigate: https://www.woodstove.com/ideal-steel-hybrid-wood-stove

I use one of these as the sole heat source in each of two houses (one about 900 square feet, the other about 1700). I haven't owned any other "modern" stove model, so I can't compare brands for you, but I don't have any real complaints about these.

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No,,, the q fire does not have an ash pan.

You have a quality newer stove, I would live with it and maybe put the money into windows or doors or insulation or booze and brods…..


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Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8288030
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Probably not the answer your looking for but I would install a outside wood boiler I've had one going on 23 years and wished I would of done it sooner.we used to have a woodstove in our old farmhouse at that time. There's pros and cons no matter which way you go.

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Originally Posted by Vinke
No,,, the q fire does not have an ash pan.

You have a quality newer stove, I would live with it and maybe put the money into windows or doors or insulation or booze and brods…..


We're planning on a new house in 10 or so years, a new stove can be swapped easily but I don't want 10 year old windows in the new house. Maybe the right answer really is just to keep using the one I have.
Originally Posted by houndone
Probably not the answer your looking for but I would install a outside wood boiler I've had one going on 23 years and wished I would of done it sooner.we used to have a woodstove in our old farmhouse at that time. There's pros and cons no matter which way you go.

Ide be happy with a boiler but I'm to cheap, including install etc it seems most are over 15k

Re: Thinking about new wood stove [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8288042
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We had a Lopi at our old house and a Jotul Rangely right now. The Lopi had a nice built in fan, the Jotul is pure radiant. Both brands are great. I know a couple different people who LOVED their Jotuls for many many years. Happy trapping. ScottW

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I love my Jotul !
It has an ash pan, grate, a front and side door and is non catalytic. It is 20 below at the moment and I am sure I could push the indoor temperature close to 90 if I wanted to.

I've had it almost 20 years. Cut my wood consumption by around 30% when I got it. Never had any sort of issue with it. It holds fire a good 8 hours and uses 6" pipe.


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