Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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First off, this isnt a negative post about anyone on this forum. Yet, it is hard for me to believe that based on past threads and posts from folks, that there are many that will be saying Lord, Lord, Have I not cast out demons in your name and healed the sick. To only hear, depart from me I do not know you.
recent threads and posts on those threads leave me to believe that this is very accurate.
Jesus did not EVER need to be born again, if you do not understand the Triune Godhead, the Father, Son and the Holy spirit, that would explain a ton of the answers to specific requests for direct scripture. Either you need to do some serious soul searching to determine if you truly have salvation. Which I am very skeptical of at this point. If you have asked Christ to come into your heart but yet you have refused surrender your life to him as Lord and Master, complete and total repentance from the sins that you know for a fact come between you and the Father, then you are not Saved and have Salvation. Your original plea was nothing more than emotional lip service and not remotely in true and total surrender.
So, Since Jesus was 100 percent God, 100 percent man in one body of flesh and blood, what would move any human to think that his divine nature would need to be reborn. That is ludicrous, and I say that because you can go Directly to the book of John. Read the entire book and take your time. God, sent Jesus, as a sacrifice for our sorry butts, to save us from eternal demise. JEsus is one of the persons of who God the Father is. He is one Being, but exists in three persons, God the Father, God the Son and the God the Holy Spirit.
The only reason John the Baptist received a word from God about the issue of when You see my Spirit Descend Upon Him and Remain, this is He. John the Baptist and Jesus never physically saw one another..
Jesus was Baptised by John to fulfill old Testament prophesy. Jesus did not need to be reborn. He was 100 percent GOD and 100 percent man. John 1:1-15.
The rebirth has to do with us, You and I. Jesus exists outside of the time, space and matter spectrum since he has always been with God the Father, as has the Holy Spirit.
Stop trying to pull things out of scripture to fit your own ideologies or theological beliefs. If you can see it for what it is, seriously search your own soul to see and understand if you DO truly have Salvation.
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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I fullywell agree sheepdog and also with treedablackdog...i fight a few daily that i havent fully got rid of but i also then have to rely on gods redemption as im not perfect. I didnt read the threads that spurred this topic but know people who claim to be saved but few fruits or service. I try my best to leave the judgement to God. The trinity is there.
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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First off, this isnt a negative post about anyone on this forum. Yet, it is hard for me to believe that based on past threads and posts from folks, that there are many that will be saying Lord, Lord, Have I not cast out demons in your name and healed the sick. To only hear, depart from me I do not know you.
recent threads and posts on those threads leave me to believe that this is very accurate.
Jesus did not EVER need to be born again, if you do not understand the Triune Godhead, the Father, Son and the Holy spirit, that would explain a ton of the answers to specific requests for direct scripture. Either you need to do some serious soul searching to determine if you truly have salvation. Which I am very skeptical of at this point. If you have asked Christ to come into your heart but yet you have refused surrender your life to him as Lord and Master, complete and total repentance from the sins that you know for a fact come between you and the Father, then you are not Saved and have Salvation. Your original plea was nothing more than emotional lip service and not remotely in true and total surrender.
So, Since Jesus was 100 percent God, 100 percent man in one body of flesh and blood, what would move any human to think that his divine nature would need to be reborn. That is ludicrous, and I say that because you can go Directly to the book of John. Read the entire book and take your time. God, sent Jesus, as a sacrifice for our sorry butts, to save us from eternal demise. JEsus is one of the persons of who God the Father is. He is one Being, but exists in three persons, God the Father, God the Son and the God the Holy Spirit.
The only reason John the Baptist received a word from God about the issue of when You see my Spirit Descend Upon Him and Remain, this is He. John the Baptist and Jesus never physically saw one another..
Jesus was Baptised by John to fulfill old Testament prophesy. Jesus did not need to be reborn. He was 100 percent GOD and 100 percent man. John 1:1-15.
The rebirth has to do with us, You and I. Jesus exists outside of the time, space and matter spectrum since he has always been with God the Father, as has the Holy Spirit.
Stop trying to pull things out of scripture to fit your own ideologies or theological beliefs. If you can see it for what it is, seriously search your own soul to see and understand if you DO truly have Salvation. Do you drink alcohol? Yes or no It is a yes or no question. Any other answer will be unacceptable an unanswered. Thanks
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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Stop trying to pull things out of scripture to fit your own ideologies or theological beliefs. If you can see it for what it is, seriously search your own soul to see and understand if you DO truly have Salvation. Hummm, I see a pattern here. That’s exactly what Muslim extremists do to rationalize their ideas and radicalize others. They just leave a bunch of other stuff out that doesn’t go along with their agenda. And not this kinda radical….. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2024/12/full-56418-240994-img_0804.jpeg)
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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Sheep dog, The only point I might argue with you is the need for, "total and complete repentance". Repentance means to turn180 degrees from sin and go the other direction. While I think that has to be our desire, it is impossible for any man to lead a sinless life; at least I have never met a person who claimed to have arrived at that point.
AND, If we did arrive at that point, we would then feel justified in our forgiveness due to our ability to stop sinning. That would be in essence earning our salvation, which is impossible, and would deny Christ's work.
Try to grasp the truth of Grace; That is what it's all about.
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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No man leads a sinless life. If it were possible we wouldn't need a savior. Being born again doesn't mean you won't sin again. You will not sin nearly as often as you did before being born again. And when you do that sin will cut you like a knife. You will never rest until you stop the behavior and ask for forgiveness because it comes between you and God. If a person thinks he is going to heaven just because he believes in God/Christ or because one thinks he/she is a good person then think again. The devil himself believes in Jesus.
There are a thousand roads that lead to he%l but no road leads out. I pray that for those on the fence that you open your heart to the love of Christ and get right with God. Today, tonight might be your last day here on earth. If you die tonight without being saved there are no 2nd chances. Read the book !!!
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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First off, this isnt a negative post about anyone on this forum. Yet, it is hard for me to believe that based on past threads and posts from folks, that there are many that will be saying Lord, Lord, Have I not cast out demons in your name and healed the sick. To only hear, depart from me I do not know you.
recent threads and posts on those threads leave me to believe that this is very accurate.
Jesus did not EVER need to be born again, if you do not understand the Triune Godhead, the Father, Son and the Holy spirit, that would explain a ton of the answers to specific requests for direct scripture. Either you need to do some serious soul searching to determine if you truly have salvation. Which I am very skeptical of at this point. If you have asked Christ to come into your heart but yet you have refused surrender your life to him as Lord and Master, complete and total repentance from the sins that you know for a fact come between you and the Father, then you are not Saved and have Salvation. Your original plea was nothing more than emotional lip service and not remotely in true and total surrender.
So, Since Jesus was 100 percent God, 100 percent man in one body of flesh and blood, what would move any human to think that his divine nature would need to be reborn. That is ludicrous, and I say that because you can go Directly to the book of John. Read the entire book and take your time. God, sent Jesus, as a sacrifice for our sorry butts, to save us from eternal demise. JEsus is one of the persons of who God the Father is. He is one Being, but exists in three persons, God the Father, God the Son and the God the Holy Spirit.
The only reason John the Baptist received a word from God about the issue of when You see my Spirit Descend Upon Him and Remain, this is He. John the Baptist and Jesus never physically saw one another..
Jesus was Baptised by John to fulfill old Testament prophesy. Jesus did not need to be reborn. He was 100 percent GOD and 100 percent man. John 1:1-15.
The rebirth has to do with us, You and I. Jesus exists outside of the time, space and matter spectrum since he has always been with God the Father, as has the Holy Spirit.
Stop trying to pull things out of scripture to fit your own ideologies or theological beliefs. If you can see it for what it is, seriously search your own soul to see and understand if you DO truly have Salvation. Do you drink alcohol? Yes or no It is a yes or no question. Any other answer will be unacceptable an unanswered. Thanks What does that have to do with anything
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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… I only take religion advice from snake totin postale’s … those hands are the true believers lol
Mark 16:17-18
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17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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I have got to openly admit I have a hard time wrapping my head around the trinity and to say I understand it would be a lie. Scripture is so deep try as I may I miss so much and also don't understand a lot of it and I'm sure some I think I understand I'm likey wrong about.
God made man man chose sin. God sent Jesus to live a perfect sinless life so those that believe in him will have theirs sins washes away and be seen as sin free as Jesus on judgment day. This is a gife wr are not worthy of don't deserve, and can't possibly earn by works it's a gift freely given out of love and grace for all whom chose to accept it. Basically that's the gist. The rest of the Bible is a guide on how to live, God's love, grace power and forgiveness. It all points to Jesus . It's fun exciting and can be confusing breaking down the Hebrew and Greek words and looking at it through the eyes of the people and culture of the time. That really starts making a lot of things make since and brings so much more to the txt.
I know enough to know I will be able to fully understand it someday.
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Re: Do YOU truly have SalvatGod ion??
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… I only take religion advice from snake totin postale’s … those hands are the true believers lol
Mark 16:17-18
King James Version
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover You just an old snake handler ain't ya.
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