The future of dues paying trapping orgs.
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12/24/24 06:26 AM
12/24/24 06:26 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
SE Kentucky
kytrapper
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trapper
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OP
trapper
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SE Kentucky
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Does anyone else see a bleak future for “trappers” belonging to organizations? I see so much free content out there that I believe a lot equate being a part of any online group as belonging to an organization. I believe where it will begin, well it already has, is to have less clout when dealing as a group with your state wildlife agency. I think having some direct benefit like a fur sale that requires membership will help prolong a group but there’s so many now talking about “ditch pandas” and “ nest raiders” that fur put up will never attract that group. Also seeing it common for guys to look for an excuse to get butt hurt and quit, usually blaming something or someone else. I just see after 50 years of observation, things have changed quickly last five years or so. I know, I know, won’t come back until we have a fur market. I also think the majority of “casual trappers” we have now will in no way fight to keep it. Their primary reason for setting a trap is to enhance hunting opportunities and I don’t see them loading up and going to fight for keeping trapping. I think they’ll accept any equipment downgrade to the point of letting it be taken away. Heck, a lot only set dog proofs anyway. I believe for a large portion now they’d be ok with just going to thermal hunting or frog gigging and forget trapping. I wonder how long fur trapping can sustain being picked apart from different directions. Any positive thoughts?
Last edited by kytrapper; 12/24/24 06:31 AM. Reason: Additional thought
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Re: The future of dues paying trapping orgs.
[Re: kytrapper]
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12/24/24 07:01 AM
12/24/24 07:01 AM
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ohio
Ohio Wolverine
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trapper
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ohio
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Because of health reasons, I no longer hunt or trap, seldom fish either. But I buy my licenses every year to support the DNR. Same with trapping, I pay my dues because there's more than just fur auctions , there's sending people to the wildlife meetings, to help prevent more restrictive laws. We still need to support our outdoor sports , and need to encourage youngsters to get involved.
It's like planting a tree, you may never enjoy it's shade or it's fruits, but those coming after you will.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: The future of dues paying trapping orgs.
[Re: kytrapper]
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12/24/24 07:13 AM
12/24/24 07:13 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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"Grumpy Old Man"
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
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The problem is human nature. Organizations get big, get a lot of money, and get corrupt.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: The future of dues paying trapping orgs.
[Re: kytrapper]
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12/24/24 07:15 AM
12/24/24 07:15 AM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
"Chippendale Trapper"
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"Chippendale Trapper"
Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Trapping takes quite the effort by itself, throw in the time of year and weather conditions and it’s even more of a challenge to get others excited about it. I wish it was as easy as giving away fishing poles and fishing gear riverside at the park in the summer when kids are out of school.
I have taken a number of kids trapping and while they are fascinated by the critters, there is little interest in how they got there.
-Goofy
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Re: The future of dues paying trapping orgs.
[Re: kytrapper]
#8291871
12/24/24 07:56 AM
12/24/24 07:56 AM
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Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
trapper
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trapper
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Does anyone else see a bleak future for “trappers” belonging to organizations? I see so much free content out there that I believe a lot equate being a part of any online group as belonging to an organization. I believe where it will begin, well it already has, is to have less clout when dealing as a group with your state wildlife agency. I think having some direct benefit like a fur sale that requires membership will help prolong a group but there’s so many now talking about “ditch pandas” and “ nest raiders” that fur put up will never attract that group. Also seeing it common for guys to look for an excuse to get butt hurt and quit, usually blaming something or someone else. I just see after 50 years of observation, things have changed quickly last five years or so. I know, I know, won’t come back until we have a fur market. I also think the majority of “casual trappers” we have now will in no way fight to keep it. Their primary reason for setting a trap is to enhance hunting opportunities and I don’t see them loading up and going to fight for keeping trapping. I think they’ll accept any equipment downgrade to the point of letting it be taken away. Heck, a lot only set dog proofs anyway. I believe for a large portion now they’d be ok with just going to thermal hunting or frog gigging and forget trapping. I wonder how long fur trapping can sustain being picked apart from different directions. Any positive thoughts? No positive thoughts to add....unfortunately. You are spot on with your assessment of what has occurred and what contines to happen.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Resource Protection Service
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Re: The future of dues paying trapping orgs.
[Re: kytrapper]
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12/24/24 08:05 AM
12/24/24 08:05 AM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
"Chippendale Trapper"
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"Chippendale Trapper"
Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
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I’ve heard about that and also theft by someone taking care of the banking. My philosophy is for us to never get too big that anything becomes too tempting. I firmly believe dues money should be used for the members. We try to have good meets, good shirts and hats, hoodies, good fur sale and we send Sportsmen’s Alliance a nice check every year because they’ve proven themselves to us already. I said a trapping organization should be healthy and moving like a flowing stream. If it gets pooled it gets stagnant and problems arise. “Like”
-Goofy
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Re: The future of dues paying trapping orgs.
[Re: kytrapper]
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12/24/24 08:05 AM
12/24/24 08:05 AM
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Joined: Jun 2022
Manitoba
Shakeyjake
trapper
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trapper
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Manitoba
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Our association is pretty dead social media wise. There’s one younger guy in there about 35-40yrs old, but the rest aren’t very tech savvy. I didn’t join for the knowledge, it’s just the right thing for me to do and it’s a gouge of good people. They’re the reason I’m hanging some little kill springs for coyotes this year instead of rams. Hopefully I’ll be building some for wolves next year.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: The future of dues paying trapping orgs.
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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12/24/24 08:13 AM
12/24/24 08:13 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
SE Kentucky
kytrapper
OP
trapper
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OP
trapper
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SE Kentucky
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Hobbie, after us being in existence over twenty years and coming out of the gate super strong as trying to get kids involved it just hasn’t “stuck”. I can’t name one kid we’ve gave traps to that is trapping. It sounds very harsh and uncaring but I’ve come to believe it’s not a waste of time ever to show and do for kids, it is not the answer to trapping perpetuation, sadly. Now, if you have a kid that’s around it daily they’ll have a higher chance if sticking. If they have a parent or mentor to go with. I find the natural curiosity about animals is just not there anymore. They care little how or why a furbearer, or deer or turkey, arrived there.just to shoot it and shake it on Facebook is the goal a lot of times I’m afraid. I’ve about decided to devote my time and mental injury into the people that join and support the group and quit trying recruitment quite so much. Again, sounds bad on the surface. I’m just looking at reality. I’m afraid we’re chasing our tails a lot of the time instead of worrying and working to keep what we currently have.
Last edited by kytrapper; 12/24/24 08:17 AM. Reason: Spelling
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Re: The future of dues paying trapping orgs.
[Re: kytrapper]
#8291892
12/24/24 08:24 AM
12/24/24 08:24 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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"Grumpy Old Man"
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
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I have taken a lot of kids trapping. Only one is a serious trapper as an adult. You either have that gene or you don't. Keep taking kids trapping. Keep talking about it. We need voters.
One of the kids I took trapping, (adult now) came by the other day. Had a roadkill bobcat. I helped him skin flesh stretch and dry it in my shed. He will vote for us long as he lives. Just cause most wont trap they are still members of the public we need good relations with.
Last edited by danny clifton; 12/24/24 08:27 AM.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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