Re: Superior Wagyu Beef - Affordable
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Waygu beef is all over Facebook and Craigslist here right now. I wonder if it will partially replace Angus beef.
Keith Wagyu are pretty shoddy looking on the hoof, the calves aren't as vigorous. Your seeing more if it pop up because you need to market it and get a premium for it to make it pencil. Best of luck to our friend from NY here, seems like he's trying to put in the effort to maximize his value, probably not the best people to try and advertise to but who knows.
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Re: Superior Wagyu Beef - Affordable
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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12/27/24 05:57 PM
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Yes sir
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Waygu beef is all over Facebook and Craigslist here right now. I wonder if it will partially replace Angus beef.
Keith Wagyu are pretty shoddy looking on the hoof, the calves aren't as vigorous. Your seeing more if it pop up because you need to market it and get a premium for it to make it pencil. Best of luck to our friend from NY here, seems like he's trying to put in the effort to maximize his value, probably not the best people to try and advertise to but who knows. Feed efficiency is the biggest hurtle. It takes ALOT of feed to get them finished. That's why the premium for the finished product.
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Re: Superior Wagyu Beef - Affordable
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What I'm trying to figure out, is grass fed beef that has that kind of fat content! I wonder why rabbits aren't fatter. I tried some , not sure it was the real thing, but wasn't impressed at all. Grass fed beef is very lean, also they move a lot to get the grass to eat. Unless kept in a stall and fed chopped grasses, even then I have a hard time seeing that kind of fat content. Fat beef are grain fed form my experience . Also put in a stall to fatten up , at least a feed yard. Ohama steaks are much the same selling explanation .
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Re: Superior Wagyu Beef - Affordable
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What I'm trying to figure out, is grass fed beef that has that kind of fat content! I wonder why rabbits aren't fatter. I tried some , not sure it was the real thing, but wasn't impressed at all. Grass fed beef is very lean, also they move a lot to get the grass to eat. Unless kept in a stall and fed chopped grasses, even then I have a hard time seeing that kind of fat content. Fat beef are grain fed form my experience . Also put in a stall to fatten up , at least a feed yard. Ohama steaks are much the same selling explanation . Marbling is more of a generic thing. You can probably put an Angus steer and waygu one on the same diet from birth and not have the same marbling on the Angus as you would the waygu. You can pump up the fat content on the outside of the meat with corn or other fat producing feed. You'll just never get intramuscular fat through feed.
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Re: Superior Wagyu Beef - Affordable
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12/27/24 07:42 PM
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To me angus always means black. The red cattle I was talking about are red white face. Herefords.
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Re: Superior Wagyu Beef - Affordable
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12/27/24 07:56 PM
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Yes sir
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What I'm trying to figure out, is grass fed beef that has that kind of fat content! I wonder why rabbits aren't fatter. I tried some , not sure it was the real thing, but wasn't impressed at all. Grass fed beef is very lean, also they move a lot to get the grass to eat. Unless kept in a stall and fed chopped grasses, even then I have a hard time seeing that kind of fat content. Fat beef are grain fed form my experience . Also put in a stall to fatten up , at least a feed yard. Ohama steaks are much the same selling explanation . Marbling is more of a generic thing. You can probably put an Angus steer and waygu one on the same diet from birth and not have the same marbling on the Angus as you would the waygu. You can pump up the fat content on the outside of the meat with corn or other fat producing feed. You'll just never get intramuscular fat through feed. A 1300 pound steer on a high corn finishing ratio will have more marbling than he did at a 1000 pounds. So feed does increase intermuscler fat. The breeding does play a role in what the peak amount is. And the waygu is bred to have extremely high marbling.
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Re: Superior Wagyu Beef - Affordable
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You can definitely get good marbling with grass fed, it just takes forever and some real good grass at the end. This pic is from a cow we butchered, plenty of marbling but she was 15 years old and fed well, came up open. That's interesting, that's some awesome marbling , wonder if that's with all beef, if grown the same way. Is the meat tender or tougher with that kind of age?
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