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Re: Canada 51st state? [Re: Boco] #8296718
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Originally Posted by Boco
If I was PP I would put 50% tarriffs on all goods traded into Canada from USA and that is the majority of trade destination ior 38 of your states I would also do like Doug Ford and tell you we are going to find another market for our energy that currently keeps your lights on and refinerys running.
And I would also remind the moron that YOUR border security is YOUR responsibility not ours.And tell him to quit being a whiney karen and quit blaming others for YOUR problems
Our border security is fine all our immigrants are legal,no Mexicans flooding across our border into Canada illegally.
And if you are too incompetent to secure your own border maybe reduce the high demand for fentanyl that is a major problem for YOU.
The Trumpet heard the same from mexico when the pres of mexico told him Mexico isnt paying for any effin wall and to shove his wall up his arse,lol.
And guess what? no wall yet,lol.Trump-Big blowhard.

You forgot to mention the war of 1812.

Re: Canada 51st state? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8296740
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
I read Canada stopped paying it’s fair share to NATO under Biden. If so, maybe Trump will do something about it. Why should America support deadbeat countries in anything.


To stop paying it's fair share, Canada would have had to pay it's fair share first.

"There would be no way for Canada to meet its NATO spending commitment without taking on significantly more federal deficit and debt than is already planned."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/gdp-nato-military-spending-canada-1.6912028

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It's interesting to note that those small Eastern European countries (the ones close to or bordering Russia), aren't having any trouble coming up with their 2% NATO obligation.
The countries that are away from the threat of the Russian boogie man don't take their obligation as seriously.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/nato-spending-by-country

Re: Canada 51st state? [Re: KeithC] #8296755
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
I read Canada stopped paying it’s fair share to NATO under Biden. If so, maybe Trump will do something about it. Why should America support deadbeat countries in anything.


To stop paying it's fair share, Canada would have had to pay it's fair share first.

"There would be no way for Canada to meet its NATO spending commitment without taking on significantly more federal deficit and debt than is already planned."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/gdp-nato-military-spending-canada-1.6912028

Keith

Nothing wrong with beefing up our own armed forces.
Once Trudope is gone PP has comitted to beef up our armed forces which I wholeheartedly support.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Canada 51st state? [Re: Osagan] #8296775
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Originally Posted by Osagan
It's interesting to note that those small Eastern European countries (the ones close to or bordering Russia), aren't having any trouble coming up with their 2% NATO obligation.
The countries that are away from the threat of the Russian boogie man don't take their obligation as seriously.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/nato-spending-by-country


In 2022, the US spent 3.45% of our GDP on our military, which is greater than the 2% NATO countries are pledged to. Canada only spent a paltry 1.23% of their GDP, which is far less money than Canada legally promised to spend.

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Maybe Canada and the United States should both get out of NATO.

Re: Canada 51st state? [Re: TRAPPER-ED] #8296821
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Your friggin Tomahawk budget is bigger than our entire defence budget!…..haha


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Now why would any Canadian want to pay $1,500 a month for healthcare!

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The average family of 4 Canadians pays 36 000$ a year in tax’s for healthcare

That’s 9 000$ per person

The kicker is,,,,,,,4% of the population account for 95% of the spending

But hey,,, we never get a bill

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Originally Posted by spjones
The average family of 4 Canadians pays 36 000$ a year in tax’s for healthcare

That’s 9 000$ per person

The kicker is,,,,,,,4% of the population account for 95% of the spending

But hey,,, we never get a bill




thanks for posting that much more eloquently than I would have. Glad you beat me to the response

Re: Canada 51st state? [Re: Shakeyjake] #8296897
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Your friggin Tomahawk budget is bigger than our entire defence budget!…..haha


Canada spent $2,689,630,000.00 on their entire military. The US will spend $17,100,000,000.00 on just tactical missiles, like the tomahawks this year. The US will spend over $842,000,000,000 on our military this year. That's over 313 times more money than Canada spent.

Without the US protection, most middle sized, fairly poor countries, with less people than Canada, could easily conquer Canada. For instance Morocco, which nobody considers a military power, which has less people than Canada, spends nearly twice as much on their military at a little over $5,000,000,000.00.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Your friggin Tomahawk budget is bigger than our entire defence budget!…..haha


Canada spent $2,689,630,000.00 on their entire military. The US will spend $17,100,000,000.00 on just tactical missiles, like the tomahawks this year. The US will spend over $842,000,000,000 on our military this year. That's over 313 times more money than Canada spent.

Keith

And you still got turfed by a bunch of stone age luddites wearing sheets and riding camels.
How embarrassing is that,lol.

And Canada has never lost a war.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Canada 51st state? [Re: Boco] #8296920
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Originally Posted by Boco
If I was PP I would put 50% tarriffs on all goods traded into Canada from USA and that is the majority of trade destination ior 38 of your states I would also do like Doug Ford and tell you we are going to find another market for our energy that currently keeps your lights on and refinerys running.
And I would also remind the moron that YOUR border security is YOUR responsibility not ours.And tell him to quit being a whiney karen and quit blaming others for YOUR problems
Our border security is fine all our immigrants are legal,no Mexicans flooding across our border into Canada illegally.
And if you are too incompetent to secure your own border maybe reduce the high demand for fentanyl that is a major problem for YOU.
The Trumpet heard the same from mexico when the pres of mexico told him Mexico isnt paying for any effin wall and to shove his wall up his arse,lol.
And guess what? no wall yet,lol.Trump-Big blowhard.



You have to be joking?

Re: Canada 51st state? [Re: Boco] #8296923
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Originally Posted by Boco
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And you still got turfed by a bunch of stone age luddites wearing sheets and riding camels.
How embarrassing is that,lol.

And Canada has never lost a war.

Has Canada ever lost a war?
September 25, 2024 by Ronald Henderson
Has Canada Ever Lost a War?

The answer to this question may surprise many Canadians, but the truth is that Canada has indeed lost wars in the past. Despite its reputation as a peacekeeping nation, Canada has been involved in several conflicts that resulted in defeat or withdrawal.

The Beaver Wars (1609-1701)

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The Beaver Wars were a series of conflicts between the French and their Native American allies, and the Iroquois Confederacy, fought over control of the beaver fur trade. Canada, which was then a French colony, was involved in this conflict, which resulted in the loss of control over much of present-day Ontario and Quebec.

The War of the Austrian Succession (1744-1748)

During this global conflict, British North America, which included present-day Canada, was a British colony. British forces, including Canadian militiamen, fought alongside British regulars against the French and their Native American allies. Despite several victories, the British were ultimately defeated at the Battle of Louisbourg, which led to the loss of control over the island of Cape Breton.

The American Revolutionary War (1775-1783)

Canada played a significant role in this conflict, with many Canadian militiamen fighting alongside British forces against the American colonists. However, the Continental Army, led by General George Washington, was able to capture Montreal and push British forces out of present-day Quebec and Ontario.

The War of 1812 (1812-1815)

This conflict was fought between the United States and the British Empire, with British North America, including present-day Canada, being a key battleground. Despite several British victories, including the Battle of York (present-day Toronto), the Treaty of Ghent, which ended the war, was seen as a stalemate, with neither side able to claim victory.

The Boer Wars (1880-1881 and 1899-1902)

Canada sent troops to fight alongside British forces in these conflicts in South Africa. The first Boer War was a disastrous campaign that resulted in heavy casualties and the loss of several key battles. The second Boer War was more successful, with British forces ultimately emerging victorious, but at great cost.

World War I (1914-1918)

Canada played a significant role in World War I, with over 600,000 Canadians serving in the war. Despite this, Canada suffered several defeats, including the loss of many soldiers at the Battle of Vimy Ridge.

World War II (1939-1945)

Canada’s role in World War II was much more successful, with Canadian forces playing a key role in several major battles, including the Battle of Hong Kong and the Battle of the Scheldt. However, Canada also suffered several defeats, including the loss of several ships at the Battle of the Atlantic.

Korean War (1950-1953)

Canada’s involvement in the Korean War was limited to a brigade group that served in Korea from 1951 to 1953. Although the war was a stalemate, Canadian forces played a significant role in several key battles, including the Battle of the Imjin River.

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Conflict Years Canadian Casualties Canadian Victories Canadian Defeats
Beaver Wars 1609-1701 Unknown Unknown Lost control of much of present-day Ontario and Quebec
War of the Austrian Succession 1744-1748 Unknown Defeated at the Battle of Louisbourg Lost control of Cape Breton
American Revolutionary War 1775-1783 Unknown Lost Montreal and present-day Quebec and Ontario Did not achieve strategic objectives
War of 1812 1812-1815 Unknown Lost key battles, including the Battle of York Treaty of Ghent was seen as a stalemate
Boer Wars 1880-1881 and 1899-1902 19,000+ Lost key battles, including the Battle of Majuba Hill Won the second Boer War, but at great cost
World War I 1914-1918 64,944 Won the Battle of Vimy Ridge Lost many soldiers at Vimy Ridge
World War II 1939-1945 45,220 Won several key battles, including the Battle of Hong Kong and the Battle of the Scheldt Lost several ships at the Battle of the Atlantic
Korean War 1950-1953 1,078 Played a significant role in several key battles, including the Battle of the Imjin River Did not achieve strategic objectives


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Originally Posted by Boco
And Canada has never lost a war.


"Here is a long list of wars Canada has lost.

The Beaver Wars (1609-1701)

The Beaver Wars were a series of conflicts between the French and their Native American allies, and the Iroquois Confederacy, fought over control of the beaver fur trade. Canada, which was then a French colony, was involved in this conflict, which resulted in the loss of control over much of present-day Ontario and Quebec.

The War of the Austrian Succession (1744-1748)

During this global conflict, British North America, which included present-day Canada, was a British colony. British forces, including Canadian militiamen, fought alongside British regulars against the French and their Native American allies. Despite several victories, the British were ultimately defeated at the Battle of Louisbourg, which led to the loss of control over the island of Cape Breton.

The American Revolutionary War (1775-1783)

Canada played a significant role in this conflict, with many Canadian militiamen fighting alongside British forces against the American colonists. However, the Continental Army, led by General George Washington, was able to capture Montreal and push British forces out of present-day Quebec and Ontario.

The War of 1812 (1812-1815)

This conflict was fought between the United States and the British Empire, with British North America, including present-day Canada, being a key battleground. Despite several British victories, including the Battle of York (present-day Toronto), the Treaty of Ghent, which ended the war, was seen as a stalemate, with neither side able to claim victory.

The Boer Wars (1880-1881 and 1899-1902)

Canada sent troops to fight alongside British forces in these conflicts in South Africa. The first Boer War was a disastrous campaign that resulted in heavy casualties and the loss of several key battles. The second Boer War was more successful, with British forces ultimately emerging victorious, but at great cost.

World War I (1914-1918)

Canada played a significant role in World War I, with over 600,000 Canadians serving in the war. Despite this, Canada suffered several defeats, including the loss of many soldiers at the Battle of Vimy Ridge.

World War II (1939-1945)

Canada’s role in World War II was much more successful, with Canadian forces playing a key role in several major battles, including the Battle of Hong Kong and the Battle of the Scheldt. However, Canada also suffered several defeats, including the loss of several ships at the Battle of the Atlantic.

Korean War (1950-1953)

Canada’s involvement in the Korean War was limited to a brigade group that served in Korea from 1951 to 1953. Although the war was a stalemate, Canadian forces played a significant role in several key battles, including the Battle of the Imjin River."

Losing most of the battles your troops took part in and having your better allies win, hardly counts as winning.

https://www.militarymodelling.com/blog/has-canada-ever-lost-a-war/

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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by Osky
Never heard Trump say a bad thing about the Canadian folks, personally I enjoy those I know and deal with.
It’s going to stay that way with me no matter what the worthless media try’s to drum up.

Carry on.

Osky

Sure,just like Putin likes Ukraineans while he bombs the crap out of civilians.
Now you can carry on.


Totally lost me with that sort of comparison?
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Boco
And Canada has never lost a war.


"Here is a long list of wars Canada has lost.

The Beaver Wars (1609-1701)

The Beaver Wars were a series of conflicts between the French and their Native American allies, and the Iroquois Confederacy, fought over control of the beaver fur trade. Canada, which was then a French colony, was involved in this conflict, which resulted in the loss of control over much of present-day Ontario and Quebec.

The War of the Austrian Succession (1744-1748)

During this global conflict, British North America, which included present-day Canada, was a British colony. British forces, including Canadian militiamen, fought alongside British regulars against the French and their Native American allies. Despite several victories, the British were ultimately defeated at the Battle of Louisbourg, which led to the loss of control over the island of Cape Breton.

The American Revolutionary War (1775-1783)

Canada played a significant role in this conflict, with many Canadian militiamen fighting alongside British forces against the American colonists. However, the Continental Army, led by General George Washington, was able to capture Montreal and push British forces out of present-day Quebec and Ontario.

The War of 1812 (1812-1815)

This conflict was fought between the United States and the British Empire, with British North America, including present-day Canada, being a key battleground. Despite several British victories, including the Battle of York (present-day Toronto), the Treaty of Ghent, which ended the war, was seen as a stalemate, with neither side able to claim victory.

The Boer Wars (1880-1881 and 1899-1902)

Canada sent troops to fight alongside British forces in these conflicts in South Africa. The first Boer War was a disastrous campaign that resulted in heavy casualties and the loss of several key battles. The second Boer War was more successful, with British forces ultimately emerging victorious, but at great cost.

World War I (1914-1918)

Canada played a significant role in World War I, with over 600,000 Canadians serving in the war. Despite this, Canada suffered several defeats, including the loss of many soldiers at the Battle of Vimy Ridge.

World War II (1939-1945)

Canada’s role in World War II was much more successful, with Canadian forces playing a key role in several major battles, including the Battle of Hong Kong and the Battle of the Scheldt. However, Canada also suffered several defeats, including the loss of several ships at the Battle of the Atlantic.

Korean War (1950-1953)

Canada’s involvement in the Korean War was limited to a brigade group that served in Korea from 1951 to 1953. Although the war was a stalemate, Canadian forces played a significant role in several key battles, including the Battle of the Imjin River."

Losing most of the battles your troops took part in and having your better allies win, hardly counts as winning.

https://www.militarymodelling.com/blog/has-canada-ever-lost-a-war/

Keith



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