Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Yes sir]
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12/30/24 11:43 AM
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Savell
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^^^^ sounds like he needs yessirs super dope to make them dig and roll even more lol Make fun all you want but if i wanted to toot my horn and tell everyone how my stuff killed more coyotes than mange I could more than fill up this page from my pms from guys that really do kill coyotes by the hundreds that have tried my stuff. … just giving you a hard time partner … send me some… I’m sure it works … coyote trappers rarely agree on much outside of bedding a trap solid
Insert profound nonsense here
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Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Rhettskee]
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12/30/24 11:58 AM
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Drifter
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Too much lure will cause digging as well. Grey fox are known for making a game of digging sets out.
Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.
Andrew Lang (1844-1912) Scottish poet, novelist and literary critic
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Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Rhettskee]
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12/30/24 11:59 AM
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Years ago my brother couldn't catch a fox for anything. He asked me what was wrong. I looked at sets he made and saw where the fox had stepped. He was setting the trap dead center of the hole, I showed him the track on both the left and right of the set. Like most humans are right handed, I mostly set to the right of center, but if tracks show me a fox is working the left side . I sometimes add a trap on the left , because that set has worked fine before, in case a righty come to the set. That's one reason to use fine shaken soil to cover the set. Tracks show up better. All it takes is an inch or so. Also he had problems with toe catches and losing a fox on approaching the set. Told him the pan needed more tension , as they didn't set flat either. Had him catching fox in a couple days . He did everything right, just a tiny tweak was all he needed to do.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Rhettskee]
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12/30/24 12:00 PM
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Osky
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One last thing, not sure if it’s mentioned above but if you can buy, beg, borrow, or pinch a game camera and put it over a spot that’s repeatedly flustered you, you will soon see the answer you seek. Keep it back, for scent reasons.
Osky
www.SureDockusa.com“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
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Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Rhettskee]
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12/30/24 12:18 PM
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GritGuy
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If you are getting animals to your set, and not catching them, dogs from what you are asking about.
I would change the distance from the site they are interested in, meaning your are setting to close or not off set enough for them to be nailed when they come in to check.
You could also double set with a set next to or off to one side blind, as to them moving around while investigating scent.
It's the only thing I did not read about in the suggestions above, if you have them coming in it's not a scent problem, its a setting problem !
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Rhettskee]
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12/30/24 01:14 PM
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Digging can occur if the trap is not bedded solid but it sounds like you have that covered.
You mentioned using Caven's Canine Force as one of your lures, that specific lure has caused a rolling response for me in the past. As mentioned above, too much lure will also cause that response.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Rhettskee]
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12/30/24 01:23 PM
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Since this has been going on for 5 years at lured sets I believe it’s a contamination issue. You’ve told us what lures you’re using and described your sets but for the magnitude of dug-up traps ask yourself, why do they dig my trap instead of the lured holes? Why does my trap or trap bed emit an odor more desirable than the lures in your holes because unless the trap wobbles why would they be interested in it to that degree? Look back at your entire process before you ever start trapping. Where do you get your dirt to wax, what wax do you use, above all how do you store your waxed dirt & where, etc? Cover all the bases for all of your equipment(traps, nails, stakes, tools, etc) and do not make assumptions that it’s all good to go because I certainly don’t think everything is clean or stored clean. You’re experiencing too much too often for the problem not to be fundamental! IMHO
BTW, I agree 101% with Yessir. It’s the frame of mind & mood of desire we want. The canine is suppose to be in the trap long before they can act upon what their mood is telling them to dig or roll.
Last edited by Seldom; 12/30/24 01:34 PM.
"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
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Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Rhettskee]
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12/30/24 01:59 PM
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Bruce T
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You ever considered trapping something else a little easier at first?
NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA
#1 goal=Trap a wolverine
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Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Rhettskee]
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12/30/24 02:21 PM
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wetdog
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How well do you clean your traps before dyeing and waxing? I had an issue with skunked up dirt inside the springs. It transferred to all the traps in the kettle and then my wax pot. Have you ever caught a skunk in one of your k-9 traps? Those skunky traps should be kept away from the other traps. Don't ask me how I know
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Re: Ready to Quit Trapping - Need Advice
[Re: Rhettskee]
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12/30/24 02:23 PM
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HobbieTrapper
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It’s obvious you are bending down to far when you’re making the sets. Try doing it with your back arched and shoulders back. lol
Or try what the majority posting agree on.
BTW, there ain’t no shame in using a second trap to snag a digger.
-Goofy
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