Are ferral domestic cats.... easy food for coyote
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Neighbors next farm over ferral cats........that are fed and allowed to reside in her several run down sheds.......are always disappearing........I tried to explain the coyote are getting fat on them......and should just have only inside cats.......she argues cats are not coyote prey.....with their claws and teeth cats fight back.....is she right or am I....
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Re: Are ferral domestic cats.... easy food for coyote
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All live food fights back....right before they're eaten!
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Re: Are ferral domestic cats.... easy food for coyote
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Yes if the cat can't get to a tree quick enough
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Re: Are ferral domestic cats.... easy food for coyote
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Neighbors next farm over ferral cats........that are fed and allowed to reside in her several run down sheds.......are always disappearing........I tried to explain the coyote are getting fat on them......and should just have only inside cats.......she argues cats are not coyote prey.....with their claws and teeth cats fight back.....is she right or am I.... You are correct, but it is probably best celebrated as a silent victory and just try to put sets downwind of her sheds.
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Re: Are ferral domestic cats.... easy food for coyote
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I know of one barn cat that might hold off a single coyote but not two. Yes they can put up a good fight but if I was a betting man, my money would be on the coyotes.
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Re: Are ferral domestic cats.... easy food for coyote
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I've kept semi-feral or 'barn cats' around the house for years to help keep the mice down. Before I had cats around I was constantly getting mice in my vehicles, as long as I have three or four cats around the mice problem virtually disappears. I never had any of the cats fixed, I wanted them to be self-replicating. The coyotes take care of the surplus. Whenever cats start disappearing I know it is time to trap some coyotes here by the house, trap a few coyotes and the cats quit disappearing.
I have heard a lot of times how feral cats are a problem back east, that they actually live and reproduce wild, not just around peoples barns and outbuildings. That has never been a problem out west, the coyotes take care of them. I know people occasionally dump cats in the woods, but they never last long. I would guess with the expansion of the eastern coyote they will alleviate feral cat problems. Have to agree with you.....only thing I do different is for mice building up in equip and vehicles...I have half dozen old fashioned snap trap with a peanut.....the nut lasts forever...and catch mice before they can get comfortable........am afraid of luring in coyotes with cat natural scents and odor
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Re: Are ferral domestic cats.... easy food for coyote
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You hit the nail right on the head.......there's a movement growing fast back here.....to trap strays with drop traps......take to vet to spay or neuter......bring home..release...set up a box or makeshift shelter outside....with food and water.......thats making numbers increase.....pheasant, quail, low nesting song birds, even the occasional duck nest producing ducklings are eaten......used to be you could take a stray or lost cat with no I D to county pond....owners would reclaim cat or they would be taken by others wanting a cat........the ones that were ferral or had health issues would be euthanized for free.......when that stopped....the county would take only for 25 dollar fee......after that, they now refuse to take any cats at all......I think cats lose in long run because they're not heathy for long life running loose...and wildlife loses from being preyed on by these cats....
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Re: Are ferral domestic cats.... easy food for coyote
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Lot of folks here protect feral cats, providing food and shelter and think they're doing Gods work, never thinking about the toll they take on wildlife.... trap , spay, and release is common, but they can still eat...
There's laws now that you can't kill any domestic animals, ie cats. Shelters don't want them, Cat people shelters can't get rid of them, most are diseased and gonna die, but not before popping out another litter. The quail and pheasants are gone, along with pretty much everything else that crawls., and...everyone has a cell phone camera and video, difficult to do what needs done, and not worth the legal ramifications.
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Re: Are ferral domestic cats.... easy food for coyote
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I agree....see on your post your from New York......I listen to wabc radio NY...on Sunday nites....that Curtis Silwa's wife has an animal show......and she is big proponent of ferral cats......I've tried to call show and tell her where she's wrong.....but, can never get on....don't want to point finger.....but veterinarians know the reality of a cat's life and and health in the wild issues ....in the U S....but they're mute on subject...
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Not a pro trapper....only cage trap racoon, skunk, possum, groundhog taking residence in barn that refuse to pay rent
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