Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: JoeRJr]
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01/02/25 11:08 AM
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QuietButDeadly
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I have been using a DR for several years and have never experienced the loosening you describe. Make sure the rod and lever are clean and free of any lubrication. Since yours is new, there could be some residual oil left over from the manufacturing process. A wipe down with alcohol should clean them up nicely. And when I pull the ring, I keep tension on the lever to eliminate the friction between the two parts. When snug release the lever tighten it up.
If you continue to have issues, call NO BS.
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: JoeRJr]
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01/02/25 11:54 AM
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lee steinmeyer
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Morning, I sold the DR to Kendall Obermier of No BS Lures, about three years ago. Kurt, Kendalls brother, does the building of the DR’s, and doing a very nice job of it. Kurt called me a couple weeks ago, saying they were having trouble with the ferrel sliding off of that slick 1X19 cable. When they got all my stuff, they said they didn’t need the die for cable crimping, because it wouldn’t fit their machine anyway, so I built cables for them untill I ran out of cable this last summer. I boxed up the dies that I've been using and just recently shipped them to No BS. You should call Kurt and talk to him, he will make it right with you.
Like QBD said in his post, i believe there was some oil tracked onto the pull rod, as the brand new caulking gun should have a good lock on it! Kurt can help you with that also. Happy New Year to everyone! Lee
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: JoeRJr]
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01/02/25 03:22 PM
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Bruce, I agree! I know quietbutdeadly personally, and his word is gold in my book. We aren't best buddies or anything, but I know him well enough to know that. It's good to know it should not be loosening. I'll check to see if there's any lube left on the rod, and clean it up either way. (Thanks QBD) Lee, thanks for replying too. As you noted, that ferrule was not tight on the cable. I didn't try to re-use it. I tig welded a small blob on the end of the cable, then gave it a cone shape to fit the inside of the lock nut nicely. It would be WAY overkill to produce them like that, but I wanted to be sure it didn't fail me again. I'll be sure to ping the NO BS guys if I can't get it right. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something dopey, and as I had hoped, I got really helpful answers quickly. Thanks again! Joe
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: QuietButDeadly]
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01/02/25 04:45 PM
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Trapset
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I have been using a DR for several years and have never experienced the loosening you describe. Make sure the rod and lever are clean and free of any lubrication. Since yours is new, there could be some residual oil left over from the manufacturing process. A wipe down with alcohol should clean them up nicely. And when I pull the ring, I keep tension on the lever to eliminate the friction between the two parts. When snug release the lever tighten it up.
If you continue to have issues, call NO BS. We have had the odd RTS setter rod slide back slowly under pressure when brand new. Cleaning the rod with steel wool or Brillo pad takes care of the issue 100% of the time on brand new setters. Alcohol or break cleaner works as well. There is a forming oil used in manufacturing on the rod that you can’t see. Sometimes it builds up in thumb piece causing slippage. Rare but it happens.
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: JoeRJr]
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01/02/25 05:19 PM
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beartooth trapr
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I bought one from Lee year's sgo, never had anything go wrong with it. I'd be calling them, hope they can help you out.
Let me sugar coat this
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: Spike369]
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01/02/25 10:33 PM
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lee steinmeyer
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JoeR, you will find that welding cable is just a temporary fix. The cable becomes very hard beside the weld, and will break with much use. A better choice would be to silver solder it, keeping the heat as low as you can, and still flow the solder. The best way for it to last, is to swage them on, but the end result has to be round to fit the nut that screws the cable onto the pullrod. I bought one just before season and found the same thing. I put it in the junk pile and chalked it up as a bad investment. Dollars must be abundant in your neck of the woods! Do you do the same with everything you buy?
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: Spike369]
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01/02/25 11:06 PM
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I bought one just before season and found the same thing. I put it in the junk pile and chalked it up as a bad investment. You can send it to me, I'll take care of it for you
Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
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Re: Death Ray Pole
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01/02/25 11:47 PM
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I bought one just before season and found the same thing. I put it in the junk pile and chalked it up as a bad investment. You can send it to me, I'll take care of it for you Same here I own 2 and would love a 3rd
Everything the left touches it destroys
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: lee steinmeyer]
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01/03/25 06:30 AM
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JoeR, you will find that welding cable is just a temporary fix. The cable becomes very hard beside the weld, and will break with much use. A better choice would be to silver solder it, keeping the heat as low as you can, and still flow the solder. The best way for it to last, is to swage them on, but the end result has to be round to fit the nut that screws the cable onto the pullrod. I bought one just before season and found the same thing. I put it in the junk pile and chalked it up as a bad investment. Dollars must be abundant in your neck of the woods! Do you do the same with everything you buy? Yea, if it don't work git rid of it!
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Re: Death Ray Pole
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01/03/25 06:14 PM
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I bought one just before season and found the same thing. I put it in the junk pile and chalked it up as a bad investment. That’s like junking a truck because a tires flat.
Last edited by Boone Liane; 01/03/25 06:14 PM.
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: lee steinmeyer]
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01/04/25 07:04 AM
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When they got all my stuff, they said they didn’t need the die for cable crimping, because it wouldn’t fit their machine anyway, so I built cables for them untill I ran out of cable this last summer. Whenever someone buys a product line, they try to cheapen it or take shortcuts. The saying "they don't make 'em like they used to" is extremely accurate in most cases. If it didn't fit their machine, then they need to make modifications so it will, or buy a new machine. 20 years from now trappers will say..."I own one of the originals made by Lee Steinmeyer, they were the best." If you've never met Lee Steinmeyer, the next time you're at a convention and Lee is there, introduce yourself, shake his hand, and thank him for doing things the right way and with integrity.
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: JoeRJr]
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01/04/25 07:47 AM
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Seen enough videos to show that these thing work, something wrong in the new batch. But looks like Lee & No BS are figuring it out. Top notch guys! I’m sure their customers will be taken care of.
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Re: Death Ray Pole
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01/04/25 07:31 PM
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20scout
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When they got all my stuff, they said they didn’t need the die for cable crimping, because it wouldn’t fit their machine anyway, so I built cables for them untill I ran out of cable this last summer. Whenever someone buys a product line, they try to cheapen it or take shortcuts. The saying "they don't make 'em like they used to" is extremely accurate in most cases. If it didn't fit their machine, then they need to make modifications so it will, or buy a new machine. 20 years from now trappers will say..."I own one of the originals made by Lee Steinmeyer, they were the best." If you've never met Lee Steinmeyer, the next time you're at a convention and Lee is there, introduce yourself, shake his hand, and thank him for doing things the right way and with integrity. X2!
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
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Re: Death Ray Pole
[Re: JoeRJr]
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01/04/25 07:52 PM
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danny clifton
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I have had mine for awhile. Thing is a tank
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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