Hi!
Colored corn fans, has anyone ever grown this stuff: Ohio Blue Clarage? It appears to grow as tall as Bloody Butcher (12 feet) with big ears but is much more of a corn meal type instead of fermenting variety. Just curious...

I was hoping this would get a bit more traction, gonna bump it up as I'm curious also. I was planning on planting bloody butcher but I can't find bulk seed, I want to hide my feedlot area behind some tall corn.

Morgan county has the bloody butcher in bulk. I would hate to have to feed the deer a 50lb bag of this.

https://www.morgancountyseeds.com/product/bloody-butcher/

Thank you but offda on the $$$. I've really been trying to find Jimmy Red Corn but butcher would work. Sites have it listed for $250 ish for a bag but out of stock except in small quantities.

Bloody Butcher is cool stuff

I've never bought from these guys out of Texas but they show up a lot when searching for "Bloody Butcher". I suspect most of this would be good seed to plant. I don't know how much freight would be from TX to MN so that would add to the cost.


https://mbsseed.com/product/bloody-...qJNwAD7KJQvhOFsz30qvAUM16YNAOG5_rSrvex0j

With your screen name and name of corn you're looking for don't know if I'm safe on this post or someone's meal.....lol.......on a serious note .....Johnny's seeds......think in new England.....has a lot of different hard to find seeds....in catalog.....I used them a lot up to 5 years ago......If your looking for deer attracting food.......try dandelion.......lots of varieties available.....where I planted years ago when still deer hunting......it's still growing ........deer use it as a buffet....stopped hunting......from my blind....while they grazed on dandelion....it was like shooting cows....took the challenge out of it.......you might find it under ...dente di lione.......french for tooth of lion....my seeds I brought back from Italy over the years.......american deer go berzerk grazing......oh... also... chicory....its called in Italian......cicoria...happy hunting.....

Thanks, I'm just not sure if that will work as seed since it's open pollinated.


I like to keep everyone on their toes . As far as dandelions go, I spend to much time trying to keep them out of the pastures already, I wouldn't dare plant them! I just want to grow the corn for personal use and to hide my feedlot during the summer when people walk and rode bikes past it. It's an okay feedlot but close to a road.

Open pollinated is how all corn used to work before the hybrid movement led by Henry Wallace started up in the 1920s and took a firm hold in the 1930s when Wallace (he started Pioneer Seed) was FDR's Sec of Ag for the at least the first term. There may be hybrid varieties done so often that they have become heirlooms (be able to be the same generation after generation) but Bloody Butcher isn't a hybrid.

Sorry, what I meant is I'm not sure it will have been grown away from other varieties and tasseld, since it's not grown as seed corn it could be crossed with anything.

Being an heirloom , I would think as long as you plant it away from any other corn crop, it will be fine.
Just get enough seed to plant a small solid patch, and save the corn to plant next year.
From the looks of the size of it, you'd get an easy 1/4 pound off each ear.
I plant heirlooms every year ( tomatoes ) and get the same tomatoes every year by saving the seeds.
I don't see why it wouldn't work being the corn is an heirloom .
I remember farmers ( small farmers like my dad ) saving corn for seed for the next year. 1950'S early 60's

It depends on when corn tassels out, different types of corn tassels out at different times.
That's like sweet corn planted next to field corn.
Depends on when it's planted.
That's how sweet corn farms have a crop the rest of the year once the first batch is ready.

Sorry.............I've got to learn to stay out of other people's conversations ....

In my area, corn and bean pollen covers everything in season. How far will corn pollen travel?

Keith

Hey don't worry about it, you may have given some good information to others.
I found your post interesting.
Just because someone doesn't like dandelions in their fields ( which I never saw a problem with , lawns maybe but not fields) doesn't mean you didn't post good information.
I do have a problem with importing seeds that aren't tested and certified though.

I would venture most of us linger on this site because we don't like "traditional" social media like Instaface or Tic Tack. Me for example, getting over a nasty cold and Ole Trapperman makes a nice distraction to discuss various outdoor topics, don't worry about jumping in, we're mostly all here to just burn a bit of time and socialize.


I'm not sure but they grew seed corn all around my place last year and they took extreme measures to make sure it didn't cross pollinate, the closest other corn was about 1/4 mile.

That may be true but both corn and soybean pollen is quite light and doesn't have overly great range per individual piece for traveling, at least I think. The cool thing about s....ual reproduction, even in plants, is that it only takes one male gamete cell (this case pollen) to fertilize the female gamete cell. The way I understand it, each finished corn kernel is a fully ripened ovum resulting from that coming together.

Here are a couple of "close approximation" to each other.

In 2023, I raised about a quarter mile strip of seven rows of "purple" (Montana Morado Maize) corn in my friend's soybean field. The neighbor had soybeans on the other side of the fence as well. A few "volunteer" corn plants from my organic friend's 2022 hybrid corn grew up next to my seven rows of purple corn. I got almost no yellow corn in my seven rows but the few volunteer yellow F2 plants got a lot more of my purple corn pollen. The whole ear kept the "dent" from the F2 yellow field corn but about half the kernels came out (less intense) "purple". I haven't tried planting any of either these yellow or "purple" kernels to see what would happen next but maybe I will in the next year or two.




This other example is the aftermath of me screwing around with some blue corn I had (a Southwest origin but not Hopi Blue) where I intermixed some hybrid sweet corn (a minority to the blue kernels) I had left over from several years before then. The 2020 output was all blue. I planted some again in 2021 in a different location, I think from the 2020 output and it again came out all blue but that stand was more drought stressed. I planted some of both the 2020 and 2021 blue corn at home in 2023 (well watered) and in the middle of the small patch, I ended up having some ears that were mixed both blue, field corn yellow, and more dried up sweet corn looking. The closest big yellow field corn field was probably at least a half a mile a way. Given that the only about half a dozen or so plants in the middle of this small patch produced mixed ears, I'm wondering if the old sweet corn genes (probably now recessive in the FI blue/sweet corn cross) came from just one plant or so.

Again, I haven't tried panting any of these off of the pictured paper plate but it might be to see what comes out of both the blue and yellow kernels (planted separately) as probably a F3 of the original cross.



Anyway, it keeps me out of the bars...

In case anyone wanted to see multi-pollinated corn ears that I posted last night.