He even had to die like we do.
Fortunately for us he died sinless, without blemish, to become a perfect sacrifice.

Musta been pretty fat when the fasting started? 40 days no water. LOL

The bible says he fasted for 40 days. But nothing indicates he had no water.

I apologize. Shoulda left this thread alone.

True

The biggest thing to remember was Jesus died to give us all a chance at Heaven.

It’s all good Danny, thanks for stopping by.

Moses did not have water during his fast, but the only thing mentioned in Jesus 40 days is that he was hungry.

As for Moses, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that our bodies have gotten softer over time and just cause we can’t go without food or water for that amount of time doesn’t mean that it couldn’t have been done then

In every way like us but without sin....

And unlike us said no to the devil

That'd be boring. I'm convinced that the inhabitants of this little cage are a little too cozy a little too often. Rattle it as hard as you like.


Yes

Also, there is a lot of text here about Jesus being an example. That's true I suppose, but it isn't the point by any stretch of the imagination. And I suspect that the logic behind Jesus being an example of the way is what may be behind the original question. Jesus didn't come as an example in order to show us the way, he came in order to be the way. The logic presented in the Bible is that Jesus was fully human, and, therefore, had to actually experience all of the things that humans experience - from the mundane and uncomfortable bodily functions (like eating and illness) to the spiritual and emotional struggles and pain (Jesus didn't just cry as a baby!) He also faced the same test that we did: will we trust and obey the Father's word? He passed where we fail, and that's what qualifies him to be the only human to truly live as humans are intended to live: ruling alongside the Creator (see Genesis 1). If Jesus is merely and only an example, a god putting on a show for us, then his life, death, and resurrection are just that: a show. It's all pretend, and therefore, pretty meaningless. In order for the Gospel to make sense, Jesus must be fully human (in order the fulfill the purpose and calling of humanity) and also fully divine (because humanity is too corrupted by its own sin and the resultant Death to save its own Life - that can only be dealt with by God). I know it's a paradox, but I don't see another way to make sense of the situation. Do you all have a different understanding?

...and another thing: many seem to be conflating the idea of sacrifice with the idea of punishment. Animal sacrifice in the Bible was never about punishment for sin. Period. While sacrifice does deal with the problem of sin, the punishment for sin is exile and/or death. In order to get this right, we really have to do some work in Leviticus (so it's no wonder most of us don't see it. Who reads Leviticus?). We need to start a little earlier, however. In Exodus, God rescues a poor and oppressed people from slavery to the kingdoms of Earth, and His desire is to dwell with them and to personally be their King. In order for this to happen, there are a few obstacles. The first is the need for a dwelling place for God's holy presence; this is dealt with in the second half of Exodus with the construction of the tabernacle. The obstacle that Leviticus deals with is that the people cannot approach God's presence. He is the source of all Life and Blessing, and all of humanity is corrupted by Death and Curse as a result of sin (see Genesis 3). They cannot be in the same space without causing a problem (God's presence will leave or the humans will die - thus preventing God's plans for His people from ever happening). So God provides a way forward: the sacrificial system. The blameless life of the animal does two things: first, it covers/washes the stain of sin/death/curse (which threatens to contaminate God's dwelling); and second, it enters into God's presence since the corrupted human cannot (without suffering immediate death). With this system in place, humans can live in and experience the presence of God. Thus, biblical sacrifice is about vicarious substitution -not so that our sins are punished, but so that we can enter into God's holy presence. This system does not deal with the punishment for sin at all. The punishment or consequences of intentional sin is not absolved through the sacrificial system, it is meted out in the form of exile and death. Rather than experiencing life in God's presence, one experiences death outside in God's absence. Now interestingly, Jesus is presented to us in the Bible as a sacrifice and as having received the punishment of our sin. His blameless life covers the stain of our sin and allows us to enter into God's presence, and he also experienced death outside of the city because of the sin of the people. Maybe this is what makes it confusing for us. He does both even though they aren't the same thing. I hope that makes sense. Any way, the next questions for the Israelites in the Torah is whether they will allow themselves to be ruled and guided by God as their King - that's in Numbers. We Christians (because of Jesus) should see ourselves as living the same story from Exodus through Leviticus and out into the wilderness in Numbers on our way to the Promised Land. First, salvation: by crying out to God in the midst of our slavery to corrupt human kingdoms, he will provide a way out. Second, life in God's presence is available through the life and death of Jesus. In God's presence we can hear His Torah and learn to become holy and experience the life of blessing that He desires for us. Third, having been saved and having learned God's instruction for our lives, we must follow Him out into the wilderness and live under His rule and authority as He leads us into the Promised Land.

This is a great discussion. It does lead to more questions but a great discussion nonetheless.

Does the sinner shed all their sin before they can accept Christ?

Accepting means He is already there, but evil cannot be in His presence so how does that work?

Sin cannot stand in the presence of God the Father. Jesus stands between us and the Father as mediator. It is through (or in) Jesus that we experience Life in God's Presence. It is also through Jesus that God's abundant Life has invaded this present realm of Death. Because Jesus is fully human and fully divine, he can stand in the gap. He is the place where the rule of Heaven and the rule of Earth meet. It's a two-way street. We can enter into God's space, and God is invading our space, washing away the stain of sin and death and filling us and the rest of Creation with the Glory of God.

Because it is written that He emptied himself of being God and took on mortal flesh.

Unless there is some necessary interpretation of those words reverting back to Greek and the definitions thereof, that’s pretty simple T7.

Before they face God himself for final judgment.

Imo, all sin never gets shed, as we live in the humanly flesh. we all fall short of the glory of God. Sin happens daily, if it doesn't for some one I wish they would tell me how. But through Jesus and repentance we get accepted. So Put in man terms Jesus is with us every step he sees how we live he took the sin from all of us and place it on his shoulders, past and future sin. But to know Jesus you strive to be like Jesus you will do your best not to sin. And with Jesus comes the holy spirit when you do sin and have Jesus with in your heart the conviction will take over you and you will do what's right, and needed to get things right. Through repenting, taking accountability, forgiving or asking to be forgiven whatever it takes. When Jesus is involved and sees your working he pretty well vouches for you to get into heaven and before your times is up to walk through those pearly gates your wiped clean because he has taken it. But salvation is work, just accepting Jesus, you still have to do your part doesnt give anyone the ok to sin willingly with out consequences.In mans terms. Only through him man enters the kingdom of heaven.

Didn't Jesus eat with the disciples after the resurrection? He may not have had to eat but He must have liked to eat even in a glorified body.

They are when you go to confession

Yes Bruce I said through repentance. Confession
/repentance however you look at it through whatever denomination you are is all part of salvation. You have to ask for it and confess to get into Jesus's good grace and be able to accept him.