Re: Christian or not?
[Re: Vinke]
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Yes, I'm a believer.
"I never behold them (the heavens filled with stars) that I do not feel I am looking in the face of God. I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the Earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the heavens and say there is no God." - Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Christian or not?
[Re: Vinke]
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01/15/25 01:32 AM
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My long journey to Christ. I was a non believer in to my late 20s . After my first son was born he had seizures we kept taking him to hospital day after day till one day he flatlined pretty much . I yelled at doctors but they did not listen sometimes was wrong by the time they figured out what was going on it was a bad word show. I was very upset and said some stuff I regret at moment but security locked me in a room . Wile I was stuck in there all I could do was pray . Afterwards my son is fine but it bugged me that I prayed. I could not understand why I would pray to a god I did not believe in after many years of wrestling with it . It dawned on me. It was in me the whole time I just had to open the door . Just like a baby moose born with instincts to get up and walk and eat it was in me so one day I gave it all to him and later got baptized. I am still a new Christian but learning every day. My life has changed for the better and I give it to god I still have my ups and downs but now I just look at them as test to make me stronger and better. So yes I am a Christian. Sorry for long post but just thought I would tell my story might help some one else struggling with it .
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Re: Christian or not?
[Re: KeithC]
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I like Christianity. I think it's a decent religion. I have strong doubts of it's veracity. There's to much that is totally unbelievable in it for me. I'm sure I would be happier if I could believe Christianity was true. I can't.
Keith To me there is nothing in it that is more unbelievable than it was just a big accident. Everything has to have a beginning right? So where did all.the raw materials to create the universe come from. How did everything. Start from nothing. Sure religion sure doesn't answer all those questions, but neither does science. I am Christian all the way.
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Re: Christian or not?
[Re: Vinke]
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Simple pole with no judgments….. Nothing to do with organized religion….
I’m in with Jesus…….. Yes Amen
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Re: Christian or not?
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I might fail him but he has never failed me This is Me Yes , I’m in the same boat with y’all on this
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Re: Christian or not?
[Re: Vinke]
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Absolutely! Since I was a very wee lad. I believe, and as usual let me tell you a story:
I 1997 I was engaged to a gorgeous woman,with a heart as black as a hanging judge. Well she and I went out on night drinking with some friends of mine. We got good and loaded, and I wanted to go home, and she wanted to stay out, well we got in a fight and my friend drove me home. About 230AM I woke up and she wasn't home and the bars were closed, I grabbed my keys and checked my wallet, yep dang it my ATM card was gone again! 3rd time she has taken it when I was drunk and removed $500 for coke for her and her friends. I get in my truck and drive off to look for her.
BAM! - hit a tree and snapped the steering wheel off with my face
I come to in a small room with bright lights and people in what all around me, my first thought was well I really did it this time, at least its cool in here and the people are in white. I faded to black, then came up and saw a nurse i croaked out "what Happened?" She looked at me as if she had seen a ghost. 'Dr,! Dr! this man is awake:, she said, "Thats impossible, he has a fractured skull and severe head trauma" the Dr replied. Well he looked at me and I looked at him and he had the same expression as the nurse! Fade to black. Eventually I was taken to a room for the night, tried to call my apartment, as this was long before cell phones- no answer. next morning no answer. Finally got a hold of my fiancee friends to go see if she was there - yadda yadds
They waited 5 days to see if the brain bleed would kill me, it didn't. OK 4 hours surgery took 9 hours. Ge out of hospital after a week of being in there. First night I am home, she goes out to the bar all night and into the morning (she was a sweetheart). Two weeks later she comes home "I don't love you anymore, I don't want to be with you anymore, you need to move out!" she more or less barks at me. So her ei ma busted up feeling like Frankenstein monsters stunt double, jaw wired shut so I cant really talk to anyone. I move out and back in with parents.
That was mid July for the rest of July and all of August I cried myself to sleep, I was so depressed and sad. I never contemplated suicide, but I did understand how feeling this way could make a person do that. I did however many nights pray for the Good Lord to take me home, as I didn't want to live any more. night after night day after agonizing day. No help, no therapy, nothing, the old way tough it out.
(Here is where God mad his presence known) One night in early September I was in my depths of depression, sadness and the poor me's, something came to me. If I had prayed to not wake up and been ignored (God said no, so he did answer my prayers), then perhaps try something different.
So as I lie there wanting to die, my heart breaking, eyes streaming tears I said "Lord I can't do this on my own, I have tried and tried and I have failed. Please take this sadness and depression from me, and help live through this and be me again." I closed my eyes still hurting everywhere especially my chest and head and figures I'd get some respite from it while i slept, fully expecting to wake up feeling jsut as crappy.
I woke up and it was as if a switch had been flipped! I was no longer sad or depressed at all, not even a little bit! It was 180 degree complete reversal from how I had felt a mere 8 hours before. There was no therapy and no drugs involved, the only change was I prayed for help and I got it. To me there is no other way to possibly explain my transformation from wanting to die, feeling lik ei was dying, to being joyous I was alive and the sky seemed bluer and the air sweeter than ever.
I always believed, it was that moment when I got my irrefutable proof! God is great!
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure
Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: Christian or not?
[Re: Vinke]
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Rededicated my life to my lord and savior about 2 years ago!! I discovered that I wasn’t the Christian that I should have been
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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