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Trap advice #8312386
01/14/25 04:12 PM
01/14/25 04:12 PM
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So my son was bitten by the trapping bug hard. That’s all he talks about. He dug some of my traps out and has been using them. What I am after is to get him set up with more traps and possibly condense down to same brand and style. He wants to trap everything with coons in DP and fish sets as his main target with rats and mink also. He is trying to catch a predator now which I never have done.

What he has
2 dozen Duke DP
1 dozen duke 1.5 DJ
5 sleepy creek #11
3 victor #11 (one needs a pan)
7 #2 DBL I think victor not sure
6 150 size trap
5 Belisle 330
13 110 not sure brand
6 MB 550
3 MB 450
1 victor #4 DBL
A couple colony traps

Would you guys go 1.5 for fish stick sets?
What brand? Leaning toward NO-BS
Can he use the #2 dbl for fish stick sets? We can mod them if you guys tell us how
What 110 would you get? Or would you go bigger for rat and mink?
Stick with 550 for coyote,cat,fox?

Thanks for any help. We want to have a list ready to start getting ready for next season and we are looking to go to a couple conventions this year and get him all set up and ready

He likes the #11 sleepy creeks really well



Last edited by sigpros; 01/20/25 10:10 PM. Reason: Updated correct trap numbers
Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8312407
01/14/25 04:35 PM
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Those duke 1 1/2, SC #11, and #2's will all be good for coon, mink and muskrat for fish sticks and pocket set
I like victor 110's for rat and mink because of the 4 way trigger

Last edited by Turtledale; 01/14/25 04:36 PM.

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Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8312474
01/14/25 05:54 PM
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My opinion...for the muskrat trapping go with the larger body grippers like the 150 and 159 style....fill those larger channels.
AND colony traps are excellent for muskrat/mink
Add a few more 330 Belisles and more MB550s and the #11 Bridgers are hard to beat in the water.
Top notch collection for a young trapper...really any trapper.... so far

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8312480
01/14/25 05:59 PM
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Those 550s will hold coyotes all day every day. The 450s are reputed to as well, but I have never used any, so can't speak to it. Good job Dadding goes to you!!!

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8312520
01/14/25 06:40 PM
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My opinion is don’t go selling everything to buy him one brand. If he sticks with it for a few years and is still on fire, do it then. For now, let him try as many traps as he wants and let him develop a preference

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8312540
01/14/25 06:51 PM
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The Duke 1.5 DJ is the top choice for water traps of most coon long-liners that I know. Nothing wrong with the Dukes 110's, I knew a fella who before he passed caught hundreds of mink/year in them and BMI 110's. You can get more Duke 550's for the same money as the MB brand, and they are just as good,,, however you can buy a lot more #1.75 or #2 Dukes for that same money and they hold fox and coyotes too. More sets = more fur. Good luck to you and your son.

Also, Those #2 DLS are more versatile than most folks give them credit for. In the water they will hold anything that steps in them and drown mink and fast with their added weight. Set them in deeper water or on drowners and they are great coon traps as well.

I don't know all your regulations on snares, but they are easier and safer to use than 330's for beaver and on the K9 line they really stack up the fur.

Last edited by ~ADC~; 01/14/25 06:57 PM.
Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8312542
01/14/25 06:52 PM
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If a person could only have one trap and catch everything from coon to coyote, the mb550 would be it.

Get a bunch of 110’s for muskrat.

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8312568
01/14/25 07:08 PM
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Heck, he’s got everything he needs already, lol.
I’d give it a few years and then see if that fire is still there and go with one brand.

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8312696
01/14/25 08:35 PM
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I have a doz MB550s and have caught at least 30 coyotes in them with no problems and a few coons, possums and bobcats as well

That is what was recommended by a trapper I highly respect and who has caught a ton of coyotes

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8312819
01/14/25 10:18 PM
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Thank you guys. He will be a senior next year and really wants to hit it hard. He would love to even do an out of state trapping trip but heck I wouldn’t know where to start on that. I do know we will be taking some trips next year hopefully hunting but tags are getting tougher to draw. And I am going to burn a lot of vacation running a line with him. It seems sappy but he’s my best buddy and I’m going to miss him. He has his sights set on the Air Force academy with West Point as his number two. And Air Force ROTC as his third choice. He’s a great kid and I want to make some serious memories this year with him. That’s why I want to make sure he has enough traps. His goal is 250 coons next year and a beaver and otter. Hopefully his first predator comes this year.

And on the snares I would have to check the regulations I have never used them and haven’t trapped in a decade. Used to be only cable restraints were legal and you had to take a course for them which we could do. He wants to trap a beaver with a foothold the 330’s are just some I had back in the day for nuisance job that never happened

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8313131
01/15/25 10:51 AM
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Well I'm the farthest thing from an expert trapper.

It looks like he has a good assortment of traps to get started with

I wouldn't spend the money on buying all matched equipment.

Let him use what he has access to so that he can get some experience and see if he wants to stay with it.

IMHO buying good lures and baits will help him more than new matched equipment will.

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8313141
01/15/25 10:58 AM
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Really isnt a "bad" 1.5 coilspring out there anymore. If you want to get top of the line stuff. The no-bs traps are pretty much that on every trap they make with few exceptions, the MJ 600s and original CDR being the exceptions).

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8313152
01/15/25 11:07 AM
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i run no bs dbj and i love em, they are good and stout too


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Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8313352
01/15/25 03:53 PM
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My standard go to coon trap is the Duke 1.5 DJ. I've got several hundred and have ran them for years.
If you are going to standardize styles and sizes of traps I'd go with Dukes.

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8313595
01/15/25 08:19 PM
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Updated the trap totals. The one #11 needs a pan. Should we put a pit pan on it? Make it dog less? We are going to night latch the Duke 1.5’s thet are new. Ordering some coni stands and brackets. Might order a NO-BS 1.5 just to look at. And we are both excited to hit the convections and hopefully pick up more traps.

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8316821
01/19/25 02:30 PM
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Also what is a good number of DP traps to run a good first time line? I am thinking 4-5 dozen? The boy has set a goal of 250 coons next year and hopefully his first of each predator coyote,fox,bobcat

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8317459
01/19/25 09:35 PM
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The only thing he would need is some more 1.5's if he doing any water trapping for coons, mink and rats. Duke or Victor's are fine. Maybe dome 120' for mink on dry land.


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Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8317558
01/19/25 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sigpros
Also what is a good number of DP traps to run a good first time line? I am thinking 4-5 dozen? The boy has set a goal of 250 coons next year and hopefully his first of each predator coyote,fox,bobcat

Its really hard to quantify # of traps to recommend as most of it has to do with how much land, what kind said land is and what the sign is like.

Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8318414
01/20/25 03:04 PM
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Maybe start out with a dozen and go from there. I would rather have a dozen good sets out than a hundred "Hail Mary" sets.


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Re: Trap advice [Re: sigpros] #8318650
01/20/25 06:06 PM
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You already have over 160 working traps. How many does he need or want? If he is only going to use DPs and l.5 coils for coons, he has 36 traps already. The 7 dozen 2 dbl are actually 1.5 size traps with 2 springs but they are not the best coon traps if you want to minimize foot and leg injuries. If most of the traps you already have are not the ones he really wants to utilize then maybe selling, trading or swaping for wha he would like would be best. Leaving dozens of traps hanging to me is not the best way to manage a trap inventory.

Bryce

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