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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: ~ADC~] #8317318
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
It would nice if we can get suppressors treated the same as a fire arm.


They should be treated like scopes or any other accessory you add to a gun.

Exactly.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: WI Outdoors] #8317320
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
They will never take our guns. It's all political rhetoric.


you are a Fool!

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Jurassic Park] #8317325
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Can you guys lose your amendment rights?


The soon-to-be-former president was heard to say that "No amendment was absolute." So, in his opinion, they could be altered or done away with. 


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: danny clifton] #8317331
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I am optimistic

Right where i stand. Actions speak louder than words especially in politics

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Jurassic Park] #8317337
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Can you guys lose your amendment rights?

Ultimately it comes down to the judges

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317351
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Husted from Ohio going to Senate cannot be a good thing for gun owners.......I just don't trust him or dewine......they're both part of swamp....

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: trapdog1] #8317362
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Can you guys lose your amendment rights?

Constitutional rights - absolutely not. (Some politicians and communists will of course think differently).


we've already effectively lost a lot of our rights.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317367
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Thanks!

I always thought it was strange the topic keeps coming up.


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: ] #8317381
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Originally Posted by 32summit40
Husted from Ohio going to Senate cannot be a good thing for gun owners.......I just don't trust him or dewine......they're both part of swamp....


Husted cried a whole lot, way, way more than I would ever expect, when DeWine announced him as his senate pick. I'm on the fence if that is neutral or bad.

Keith

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Steven 49er] #8317395
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
It would nice if we can get suppressors treated the same as a fire arm.


I would like to see the same done with "antique" guns that are treated as Class III firearms. The old Marble's Game Getters, Steven's Bicycle Guns, Ithaca Auto-Burglers and H&R Handi Guns. They are all single or double barrel shotguns that are 100 years old but by current law are illegal because most had 10-12 inch barrels. They are a unique piece of history and are "cute".


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317397
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In a Republic, as we were founded, the rights of the individual and minority are protected. In a true democracy, as in where they want to take us, the rights of the minority or individuals aren't protected. It's the majority that decide what the rules and laws are.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: bowhunter27295] #8317399
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Can you guys lose your amendment rights?


Only bureaucratically. Local and state laws can be enacted by liberal politicians and bans can be accomplished on ballot initiatives.


Excellent explanation.

Those unconstitutional laws can then be challenged in court. It is a long and expensive procedure. Some cases make it all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States but many are ruled on by lesser courts.

I have a lawyer friend who only does 2A cases and he is very successful at winning them.

Unfortunately, liberals tend to enact unconstitutional anti-2A laws with more frequency than they can be ruled on by the various courts.

Also, like bowhunter said, neither side seems to want to rock the boat very much. It keeps the issue relevant and keeps the money flowing.


Eh...wot?

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Yes sir] #8317407
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I am optimistic

Right where i stand. Actions speak louder than words especially in politics



Did we loose anything under Biden how about under Trump?

Words aside actions matter right! I'm optimistic and hopeful but still very cautious and watchful.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317411
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Our founders knew that no right or rule of law was set in stone and that's why they gave us the 2nd amendment as the last line of defense against tyranny

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: wy.wolfer] #8317418
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Can you guys lose your amendment rights?

As far as the 2nd amendment, yes. We already did as far as I'm concerned.
If we have to pay for a Right, it's not a Right, it's a privilege. (Here in CT, the "Constitution State", it's $70 for a five year permit)
If our Rights end at the state border, it's not a Right, it's a restriction. Yet compared to a driver's license, which IS a PRIVILEGE, a 16 year old can drive cross country and back, but CC (or open) by a law abiding U.S. citizen is not reciprocal.


Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
They will never take our guns. It's all political rhetoric.

You need to visit Colorado, and about seven other states where MANY types of guns are now illegal to possess. Boiling a frog, small bites at a time, etc. They just never say they want to take guns, just the dangerous ones. I'd say we are somewhat safe for four years.

CT is one of those states also. The Dems that have run this state for years took no time at all after Sandy Hook to ban a long list of so called Assault Weapons. If you owned one already, you had to get a certificate (i.e. REGISTER). If we didn't own one, we're SOL. Then for a few years we could own "others", the Dems caught up to those loopholes and banned those too.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: wy.wolfer] #8317424
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
They will never take our guns. It's all political rhetoric.

You need to visit Colorado, and about seven other states where MANY types of guns are now illegal to possess. Boiling a frog, small bites at a time, etc. They just never say they want to take guns, just the dangerous ones. I'd say we are somewhat safe for four years.

Good point about safe for four years............what I feel is if hunters...law enforcement.....and gun enthusiasts....don't start planning fot Trump's successor....4 years go fast.....they will have a repeat of biden type authority......and gun ownership is in jeopardy big time....

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317430
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In the long haul it's not the politians that are to fear it's the moral values of the general population that will "allow " it to happen.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317433
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It won’t take long for the antis to come around once we make them wish they had one. lol


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Yes sir] #8317439
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
In the long haul it's not the politicians that are to fear it's the moral values of the general population that will "allow " it to happen.


Malcolm X once said [paraphrased]: 'Only a Fool would allow his enemies to educate his children'

We have been Fools for generations! Until we get ACTIVELY involved in our kids' education, we are at extreme risk of losing even MORE of our Freedoms!

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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317444
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No matter what, Trump beats the alternative on all fronts.

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