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beaver meat #8323225
01/25/25 03:33 PM
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Why does there seem to be such a difference in attraction to K9's? Some people say it's one the best bases for bait while others say zero attraction. Do you believe it's a regional thing? Any other ideas?

Re: beaver meat [Re: flathead] #8323256
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Chop a frozen one in half and wire it to tree near the bottom. Use downed limbs against the tree to keep snow off. In the right location its a great cat set. If you have several make a pile in some thick stuff and snare all the gaps. Stay back some to miss raptors. Also coyotes will drag them around.


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Re: beaver meat [Re: flathead] #8323291
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I don't know anyone that says that beaver has zero attraction personally. In fact those in the know and have years of experience say different. Don't know about regional preferences. I have trapped East, West and the South. Beaver does as good or better than bobcat meat baits in my field experience.

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Well that's interesting. I've been doing a lot of reading trying to soak up as much as I can lately, I was sure it was in this forum that I read it multiple times. Maybe I was misunderstanding what was said then.

Re: beaver meat [Re: flathead] #8323387
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I dont know if there is anything on a beaver that cant be used. All of it in one form or another holds attraction to K-9s. Heck I think you could attract a beaver with beaver meat!

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I’ve also read on here that beaver meat has zero attraction. I think the post said the beaver carcass would be left after everything else had been eaten in the pile. But I don’t think thats true. I have caught coyotes with beaver meat miles from any beaver water. Cats seems to like to rub on the castor. Even muskrats are caught in my pocket sets baited with straight beaver meat.


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I recall one person on here saying that they didn't care for beaver, but I don't recall who it was. In my experience if you throw out a pile of carcasses, beaver will be the first one ate every time, regardless of what else is in the pile. Otter on the other hand will lay there until it melts away, nothing will touch it, maggots will just barely eat it. I rarely use bait for canines, but if I do beaver is my first choice, muskrat second, deer or elk third (now that we are allowed to use roadkill, didn't used to be allowed to use game animals for bait), and bobcat probably fourth, although I can't recall using it for canines (I've used it for marten) other than tossed on a bait pile.

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So, there's the confusion, I've had fine luck using beaver, and beaver based bait. I prefer horse, but that's not the point. I'm curious why it seems to work for some and not others? Regional difference in coyotes? Regional difference in the beaver meat? I know it's been multiple people say it, in multiple places. So at least I haven't got CRS yet. eek

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Maybe if there is a regional difference it has something to do with coyotes getting wise to what they have been exposed to from trappers and associate that particular thing with danger????

I'm not a huge believer in coyotes having " different tastes" so to speak from one region to another unless they having been educated to a particular thing from over use by trappers. I will admit i haven't trapped other areas and will admit my opinion is open on this subject based off my experience. I will also say I've seen really good formulations shine no matter what region they are used in. What I think may be the biggest contributing factor to the regional argument is how hungry are the predators from a given region are and how cautious they are. A really hungry coyote is going to be by necessity bolder along with a completely naive coyote and therfore a less attractive formulation may be fairly successful and also in these situations it might be more difficult to see much difference in the attractiveness of different formulations.

Again lose theory based purely from info I've gathered from visiting with other trappers in other regions and comparing notes.

Another side note about differences in attractiveness of baits, lures and ingredients, the individuals skill as a trapper, ability to read and interpret sign and their pinnacle of what a good attractant should be are all factors.
One person's idea of "good" may not be good enough for the next guy.

Just food for thought that might open the door for more conversation.

Re: beaver meat [Re: Yes sir] #8324177
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Maybe if there is a regional difference it has something to do with coyotes getting wise to what they have been exposed to from trappers and associate that particular thing with danger????

I'm not a huge believer in coyotes having " different tastes" so to speak from one region to another unless they having been educated to a particular thing from over use by trappers. I will admit i haven't trapped other areas and will admit my opinion is open on this subject based off my experience. I will also say I've seen really good formulations shine no matter what region they are used in. What I think may be the biggest contributing factor to the regional argument is how hungry are the predators from a given region are and how cautious they are. A really hungry coyote is going to be by necessity bolder along with a completely naive coyote and therfore a less attractive formulation may be fairly successful and also in these situations it might be more difficult to see much difference in the attractiveness of different formulations.

Again lose theory based purely from info I've gathered from visiting with other trappers in other regions and comparing notes.

Another side note about differences in attractiveness of baits, lures and ingredients, the individuals skill as a trapper, ability to read and interpret sign and their pinnacle of what a good attractant should be are all factors.
One person's idea of "good" may not be good enough for the next guy.

Just food for thought that might open the door for more conversation.

I tend to agree with coyotes are coyotes basically. I think the behavior changes are largely based on population and food availability. If the main food source in one area is deer, but 100 miles away it's gophers, there is probably a difference that needs to be adapted to. They are still going to behave like coyotes. I also think the same sets and bait/lure should work in both locations. Like you, however, my mind is open and experience across the country is limited. I talked to a guy once years ago that had great success using some alligator oil, thousands of miles away from the closest gator.

Re: beaver meat [Re: flathead] #8324193
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I don't put much value on what they are eating on a normal bases. Really haven't seen any correlation between that and what is the most attractive food base. Our coyotes eat a lot of dead cattle and I have access to truck loads of it and other than brains, bone marrow and afterbirth I use none of it.
Now again this is on the average coyote. I could understand in some situations where your dealing with high pressured coyotes that are spooky and natural bait is ur approach that what they are regularly eat might have value.
Even in sheep country I haven't heard of sheep being a popular base but others might have more knowledge on that than me.

Alot of ingredients i consider top shelf my coyotes have never smelled or very few. I've only seen one mink in my area in my life and I'm only reasonably sure it was that but my coyotes love mink glands. I use ingredients that come from India that coyotes love.

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