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Fork in the road, for federal employees #8329023
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Which fork are you taking?
My department just announced a early retirement option on top of the resignation program.

Decisions Decisions

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329025
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Work or not to work


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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329026
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I made my decision 2 1/2 years ago.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329030
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Im couple years short of mra and 5 years short of 30 years , 500 a month more in 5 years and 800 more at 62 . Guess if they offer the supplement till i hit social security age its a thought.

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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329034
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Are you FERS? If so, you should get the supplement. It got to where I just didn't enjoy the politics, and I live a pretty simple lifestyle, so I just pulled the pin.


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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329035
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God has TRULY given this country another chance!

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329039
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Im only 8 years in so the pot wasn’t sweet enough. If they offered a two year severance package (which is what Elon mentioned on a podcast) I would have seriously considered it

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329043
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160 yes fers, but it doesn't kick in untill mra by opm website.

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: sportsman94] #8329046
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Originally Posted by sportsman94
Im only 8 years in so the pot wasn’t sweet enough. If they offered a two year severance package (which is what Elon mentioned on a podcast) I would have seriously considered it


.my 25 th anniversary is February 6th

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329053
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
160 yes fers, but it doesn't kick in untill mra by opm website.




I was FERS "Special" so was eligible after 20 years at 50 or any age with 25 years. I was mandatory at 57 anyway.


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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329061
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I would have guessed that those relatively close to retirement age and those just barely into the system (zero to 7-8 years or so) would be interested in the buyout.

For those who've already invested a fair amount into the "system" (10-20 years), it would be tough to walk away from their pensions.

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: white marlin] #8329066
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Originally Posted by white marlin
I would have guessed that those relatively close to retirement age and those just barely into the system (zero to 7-8 years or so) would be interested in the buyout.

For those who've already invested a fair amount into the "system" (10-20 years), it would be tough to walk away from their pensions.


Yep thats the hard part for me , the extra 7 years i need to hit 62 covers the house payment in retirement with the added amount.

Just not alot of wild horse corrals in the private sector

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329071
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Got 21 years in this year and 5 more before I am eligible for retirement. It's tempting but the benefits and I just took a loan out on my tsp ( probably shouldn't have, but I wanted a side by side). Not really sure what to think or how's it's all going to play out. I am ready for a change but have some really good folks from all over the country that depend on me and don't want to abandon them. Middle management is hard to fill and ( in fire) we are losing lots of knowledge and experience.


The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his own weight.
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329075
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I'd like to visit your scene, nv.

sounds like a good gig!

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: white marlin] #8329087
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Originally Posted by white marlin
I'd like to visit your scene, nv.

sounds like a good gig!


At this point its a job , supervising sucks and we are lowest on the priority list, my guys dang sure don't get pay or recognized for what they do

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329090
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
Originally Posted by white marlin
I'd like to visit your scene, nv.

sounds like a good gig!


At this point its a job , supervising sucks and we are lowest on the priority list, my guys dang sure don't get pay or recognized for what they do



no doubt.

the guys actually DOING good on-the-ground work never get the recognition they deserve.

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White even worse these guys are wage grade and viewed as blue coller so no career path even

Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: Jmack] #8329111
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Originally Posted by Jmack
Got 21 years in this year and 5 more before I am eligible for retirement. It's tempting but the benefits and I just took a loan out on my tsp ( probably shouldn't have, but I wanted a side by side). Not really sure what to think or how's it's all going to play out. I am ready for a change but have some really good folks from all over the country that depend on me and don't want to abandon them. Middle management is hard to fill and ( in fire) we are losing lots of knowledge and experience.


Fire Hire from 2000 is going to leave a BIG hole in the fire organization. You are going to see a mass exit in the next 12 months and it is going to be ugly on the ground.


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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees [Re: nvwrangler] #8329124
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
White even worse these guys are wage grade and viewed as blue coller so no career path even



I worked in a similar system, so I get what you're saying. for me personally, I would have had a decent career path, but I was outspoken, so....

it is pretty sucky for those who don't have the opportunity to advance, through no fault of their own.

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Im 59 with 23 years in and seen emails flying all week and no clue what any of it means. Probably cause my idea of retiring is being lowered into a hole in some skull orchard.


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