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CO2 regulator continues to freeze during use #8329547
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I’m running about 12 lpm for 16 minutes then positive pressure for 15 minutes My regulator continues to freeze. I have the tank insulated but no help. It is in the back of my truck traveling job to job. Any help would be appreciated.

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plumbing heat tape wrapped around the regulator? you'd then need a power source.....

sounds hillbilly but a Mr. Buddy heater ? heat up the bed area assuming you have a topper

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Originally Posted by wistrapper97
plumbing heat tape wrapped around the regulator? you'd then need a power source.....

sounds hillbilly but a Mr. Buddy heater ? heat up the bed area assuming you have a topper

No camper top. I plan to try a “hot hand” taped to the regulator.

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Originally Posted by wistrapper97
plumbing heat tape wrapped around the regulator? you'd then need a power source.....

sounds hillbilly but a Mr. Buddy heater ? heat up the bed area assuming you have a topper

No camper top. I plan to try a “hot hand” taped to the regulator.


I have 5 lb tank...store and use in unheated barn......never had problem.....maybe your supplier......needs to check your gauges and tank....and ask them for remedy.....I'm no expert .....just my equipment always works in cold........might be wind chill affect durring transport in your truck .......

Re: CO2 regulator continues to freeze during use [Re: TNADC] #8329753
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Is it due to heat loss from pressure drop?

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Originally Posted by EatenByLimestone
Is it due to heat loss from pressure drop?

I have no clue. The only thing I may do differently is the type of co2. I get mine from a local beer brewing place and it is beverage grade. I do not think that should make a difference but right now that is the only thing I can think of causing this issue.

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From Google AI:

When a gas experiences a pressure drop, its temperature also drops, with a typical rule of thumb being that for every 15 psi decrease in pressure, the gas temperature drops by roughly 1°F (or 1°C per 1.03 bar).


Given its cold outside now, -16 outside here at the moment, it doesn’t have to drop as much as it would in the summer for any moisture to freeze. Or is it the CO2 freezing? Dry ice is -109F, so it’s probably moisture.

Does this happen when the tank is full or only when it is near empty, when the pressure will drop quickest?

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Originally Posted by EatenByLimestone
From Google AI:

When a gas experiences a pressure drop, its temperature also drops, with a typical rule of thumb being that for every 15 psi decrease in pressure, the gas temperature drops by roughly 1°F (or 1°C per 1.03 bar).


Given its cold outside now, -16 outside here at the moment, it doesn’t have to drop as much as it would in the summer for any moisture to freeze. Or is it the CO2 freezing? Dry ice is -109F, so it’s probably moisture.

Does this happen when the tank is full or only when it is near empty, when the pressure will drop quickest?

My estimate is that the tank is 2/3 - 1/2 full. I normally get 12-14 sessions from a 10 pound tank. I have done 4 as of yesterday. It is 39 degrees here now. One thought is that this tank sat over the winter in my garage. It may have had moisture gathered in it somehow.

Re: CO2 regulator continues to freeze during use [Re: TNADC] #8330251
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It sounds like moisture contaminating your co2.

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Thanks. I may switch tanks and see if it happens with my back up tank.

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Sir, Would you please explain your method? How many minutes and lpm? I'm at wits end. This is the second year in a row that I have had this problem. I've gone through several regulators. Thanks.

Re: CO2 regulator continues to freeze during use [Re: TNADC] #8330998
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My regulator always froze up too. Finally got sick of it and just took it off. That was 20 years ago. I just crack the valve as slow as it will go, it has worked fine. I only use it for skunks, and in the shed, not in the truck.
With the regulator, the flow rate should be approximately 20% / minute for 5 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Brian Mongeau
My regulator always froze up too. Finally got sick of it and just took it off. That was 20 years ago. I just crack the valve as slow as it will go, it has worked fine. I only use it for skunks, and in the shed, not in the truck.
With the regulator, the flow rate should be approximately 20% / minute for 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by Brian Mongeau
My regulator always froze up too. Finally got sick of it and just took it off. That was 20 years ago. I just crack the valve as slow as it will go, it has worked fine. I only use it for skunks, and in the shed, not in the truck.
With the regulator, the flow rate should be approximately 20% / minute for 5 minutes.



Are you using c02 with out regulator........how is rate of gas controlled.......thanks

Re: CO2 regulator continues to freeze during use [Re: TNADC] #8331132
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To keep moisture out of a CO2 tank, ensure it's stored in a cool, dry environment, use a dedicated CO2 regulator with a desiccant or moisture trap, and position your CO2 line with slight upward slopes to prevent condensation from traveling back into the tank; always check the tank for leaks and maintain proper connections to minimize potential moisture entry points.
Key points to remember:
Storage environment:
Store the CO2 tank in a dry area with minimal temperature fluctuations, ideally away from direct sunlight and sources of moisture.
Regulator with desiccant:
Utilize a CO2 regulator that has a built-in desiccant or moisture trap to absorb any moisture before it reaches the tank.
Line positioning:
When setting up your CO2 line, ensure it slopes slightly upwards to prevent condensation from flowing back towards the tank.
Regular checks:
Periodically check the tank and connections for any leaks, as even small leaks can allow moisture to enter.



It looks like storage in a barn might be much better than the open bed of a truck.

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Originally Posted by 32summit40
Originally Posted by Brian Mongeau
My regulator always froze up too. Finally got sick of it and just took it off. That was 20 years ago. I just crack the valve as slow as it will go, it has worked fine. I only use it for skunks, and in the shed, not in the truck.
With the regulator, the flow rate should be approximately 20% / minute for 5 minutes.




Are you using c02 with out regulator........how is rate of gas controlled.......thanks

Yes, that's what I said, turn valve on slowly until I can hear the gas, then back off to just before turning it off. I have no idea at what percentage its filling, but it's slow enough usually to not startle the skunk....usually. Sometimes a burst of co2 comes out to fast and the skunk will spray. Not all of the tanks are the same, some valves are smoother than others. Once I shut it off, I'll leave the skunk in chamber for a bit. I've had a couple wake up and walk away after dumping them out.

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Originally Posted by EatenByLimestone
AI Overview


To keep moisture out of a CO2 tank, ensure it's stored in a cool, dry environment, use a dedicated CO2 regulator with a desiccant or moisture trap, and position your CO2 line with slight upward slopes to prevent condensation from traveling back into the tank; always check the tank for leaks and maintain proper connections to minimize potential moisture entry points.
Key points to remember:
Storage environment:
Store the CO2 tank in a dry area with minimal temperature fluctuations, ideally away from direct sunlight and sources of moisture.
Regulator with desiccant:
Utilize a CO2 regulator that has a built-in desiccant or moisture trap to absorb any moisture before it reaches the tank.
Line positioning:
When setting up your CO2 line, ensure it slopes slightly upwards to prevent condensation from flowing back towards the tank.
Regular checks:
Periodically check the tank and connections for any leaks, as even small leaks can allow moisture to enter.



It looks like storage in a barn might be much better than the open bed of a truck.

I store it in the garage. It travels in the bed of the truck going from job to job. Although, this has been the first uses of the year and it sat since probably last October. I'm guessing the temperature fluctuation in the garage got me. Now how to convince the wife to let me store it in the house.......

It will go into the crawl next winter.

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Does she like fizzy drinks? Bring it inside and hook it up to one of those drink machines!

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It works for planted fish tanks too. I used to inject CO2 into them.

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Originally Posted by EatenByLimestone
Does she like fizzy drinks? Bring it inside and hook it up to one of those drink machines!

After some of my failed skunk jobs, I don't think she likes me, so fizzy drinks will not help or maybe depending on the number.

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This happens to me all the time, especially in the summer. I will be trying a hair dryer or shelling out the money to be a heated regulator. It's a pain when you have multiple animals to take care of.

There is a bit if science to determining flow rate. Check this out:

carbon dioxide

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I'm with Brian Mongeau. Why even use a regulator? I don't. Crack the valve so it barely comes out. Use a fiber washer if you are not. Each tank fill comes with a new one from my supplier. Then just gauge how much by time the valve is open. Takes a little experimentation but it is not hard to catch on to.

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Originally Posted by humptulips
I'm with Brian Mongeau. Why even use a regulator? I don't. Crack the valve so it barely comes out. Use a fiber washer if you are not. Each tank fill comes with a new one from my supplier. Then just gauge how much by time the valve is open. Takes a little experimentation but it is not hard to catch on to.



Humptulips.....you got me hooked on tank with no gauges...when you posted your pipe skunk trap with tank ........I purchased a 5# tank...and it lasts 5 to 6 catches......trapping with cages in barn....thanks to always posting good...usefull information

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Originally Posted by oneoldboot
This happens to me all the time, especially in the summer. I will be trying a hair dryer or shelling out the money to be a heated regulator. It's a pain when you have multiple animals to take care of.

There is a bit if science to determining flow rate. Check this out:

carbon dioxide

for whatever reason, the link did not work. I euthanized one this morning. Ambient temperature was 59 degrees and a new tank. The regulator sweated a little but still performed without a hitch.

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Originally Posted by 32summit40
Originally Posted by humptulips
I'm with Brian Mongeau. Why even use a regulator? I don't. Crack the valve so it barely comes out. Use a fiber washer if you are not. Each tank fill comes with a new one from my supplier. Then just gauge how much by time the valve is open. Takes a little experimentation but it is not hard to catch on to.



Humptulips.....you got me hooked on tank with no gauges...when you posted your pipe skunk trap with tank ........I purchased a 5# tank...and it lasts 5 to 6 catches......trapping with cages in barn....thanks to always posting good...usefull information

I'm curious to the connectors used to go directly from the tank to a hose. Post a picture and description if you don't mind. Thanks

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Humptulips.....you got me hooked on tank with no gauges...when you posted your pipe skunk trap with tank ........I purchased a 5# tank...and it lasts 5 to 6 catches......trapping with cages in barn....thanks to always posting good...usefull information [/quote]
I'm curious to the connectors used to go directly from the tank to a hose. Post a picture and description if you don't mind. Thanks[/quote]


I'm no good at posting photos....but the tank I get refilled from industrial gasses company.....don't know diameter.....but bought clear heavy tubing to fit exactly and screw it on threads....I keep it short...maybe only 2 feet or less...drill exact size hole for entry into what ever you use....as others said gently open till co2 hissing heard.....some frosting is always visible but only slight...works good for me and is good for catch....

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Try cut n paste. There is some science to this

https://icwdm.org/management/euthanasia/carbon-dioxide/

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