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Grise Fjord #8332167
02/04/25 12:54 PM
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Watched a show on TV the other night.

In August of 1953, 8 Inuit families in a forced migration were sent to the high arctic by the Canadian government to a place called Grise Fjord. In Relocation To The High Arctic, Alan R. Marcus proposed that the forced relocation of the Inuit not only served as an experiment, but an answer to the Eskimo problem. The government claimed that the families volunteered to the relocation. If after two years things didn't work out, they could return home. However, this promised was never honored by the Canadian government.

The Inuit suffered many hardships during the first two years. To this day they have survived but still live in very harsh conditions.


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Re: Grise Fjord [Re: Trapper7] #8332180
02/04/25 01:21 PM
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WOW!!
I did some more research on it there seems to be some smell to the operation.


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Re: Grise Fjord [Re: Trapper7] #8332199
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What was the eskimo "problem"?

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Originally Posted by gcs
What was the eskimo "problem"?

Canada wanted to assert its dominance on some small islands in the high artic during the cold war, so they forced the inuit to move there as human flagpoles.

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Mostly it was a problem that Canada had all that land on the high Arctic islands . The land is potentially mineral rich and transportation route. But they had trouble establishing sovereignty because no one lived up there . Do they moved them Inuit families up there. It's not so bad nearly free housing if you don't work. Free education . The internet is terrible but if you buy Starlink it's the same as anywhere else. People mainly hunt for a living. Plus there is programs that subsidize boats and snowmobiles up to 75%.

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so it wasn't an eskimo problem, but a Canadien problem to get someone to fly the flag where no one wanted to go...got it...

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They must like it there now.
Nobody forcing them to stay.
The innu and Inuit were always fighting on their traditional hunting and trapping grounds where they overlapped.It was the same here between the Cree and the Algonquin and the Bungees(ojibwa) right up until the early 70s as I remember shootouts and burnings where their traditional trapping grounds overlapped.
Those inuit that were moved further into their homeland may have been massacred out of existence by the innu back in the day if the govt hadnt stepped in.
You need to get more than one side of a story sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Boco
They must like it there now.
Nobody forcing them to stay.
The innu and Inuit were always fighting on their traditional hunting and trapping grounds where they overlapped.It was the same here between the Cree and the Algonquin and the Bungees(ojibwa) right up until the early 70s as I remember shootouts and burnings where their traditional trapping grounds overlapped.
Those inuit that were moved further into their homeland may have been massacred out of existence by the innu back in the day if the govt hadnt stepped in.
You need to get more than one side of a story sometimes.


So it's good to forcibly move people from their homes?

I wonder where Trump will put the canadians when it becomes the 51st state.

(sorry, can't help myself).

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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by Boco
They must like it there now.
Nobody forcing them to stay.
The innu and Inuit were always fighting on their traditional hunting and trapping grounds where they overlapped.It was the same here between the Cree and the Algonquin and the Bungees(ojibwa) right up until the early 70s as I remember shootouts and burnings where their traditional trapping grounds overlapped.
Those inuit that were moved further into their homeland may have been massacred out of existence by the innu back in the day if the govt hadnt stepped in.
You need to get more than one side of a story sometimes.


So it's good to forcibly move people from their homes?

I wonder where Trump will put the canadians when it becomes the 51st state.

(sorry, can't help myself).

Not nowadays but back in the day it was done all the time,in your country too and ours and others.
Times changed for the better in that regard.
All thru history people have been forceably removed from their homes
Still going on in Ukraine and Palestine and other places.

I suppose it is still sometimes acceptable if it is for the peoples own good(to get them out of harms way).

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Originally Posted by Boco
They must like it there now.
Nobody forcing them to stay.
The innu and Inuit were always fighting on their traditional hunting and trapping grounds where they overlapped.It was the same here between the Cree and the Algonquin and the Bungees(ojibwa) right up until the early 70s as I remember shootouts and burnings where their traditional trapping grounds overlapped.
Those inuit that were moved further into their homeland may have been massacred out of existence by the innu back in the day if the govt hadnt stepped in.
You need to get more than one side of a story sometimes.

According to the show, they were forced to stay there. They were originally promised if after two years they wanted to return to Quebec they could. However, the Canadian government went back on their promise and refused to allow them to return. They have learned to adapt after all these years. But, listening to some of the residents of Grise Fjord, they feel they were treated badly by the government. Prior to them being sent there, they were told there was an abundance amount of game to feed their families. They found the opposite was true.


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