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Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) #8333133
02/05/25 02:12 PM
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This will be a bit of story but bear with me for the history part.
The most recent post about type of ice spud to have. Made me think about this strap or rope ditching trick. Was suggested in the spud post to have a strap on spud so don't loose it chopping threw ice. Which l can say I did when was kid slip and drop the spud in river. So a rope was add with a loop to go over my wrist.
What I learn later on was if you fall threw the ice with the spud. While it can be useful in getting out if you know how to use it. It may also be a something you don't want tie to your wrist. Most people would want to just ditch it.

One of the swift water rescue schools I was at years ago. The instructor showed us a simple way to hold a rope. It was actually for throwing a line bag rescue rope. Those throw bags were just starting to become popular tool for swift water. Those throw bags all had a loop on the end which most people would put over their wrist. That's all fine and good so you don't loose the rope end. Not so good if something goes side ways and now you find you need to ditch the line. With a strap or rope looped on your wrist. Once there is any amount of tension on it. It can be almost impossible or totally impossible to ditch a line.
Now we have all seen the video of some kid or old lady. Where the dog bolts and they get dragged because the leash was looped on their wrist. I got home from this rescue school with new idea. I taught my kids to hold the dog leash loop. The same way we were taught to use the loop on the rescue rope. That theway they had control of the rope with out worry of it just jerked from their hand. It also allowed them if need be to get free, not be dragged by 70lb Labrador. Which were actually trained well enough that would never happen. Right!
So here it is 4 simple pictures. Because I don't know how to do video.
Also the loops I put on my throw ropes or things I rig myself. I purposely make them small. That way even a small person can put it over their hand.

Here we go

Start by placing the loop over your thumb.

[Linked Image]

Then the strap or rope goes over back of your hand.

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Next it lays across the palm of your hand.

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Closing your hand on the line it is now coming out of your hand by you thumb. I. This position you should have as much grip as you can hold

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To ditch the line and any thing attached. You simple open your hand and the line pulls free. It may not be without a bit of discomfort. But you shouldn't be dragged into what every your trying to let go of.
Like any thing it should be practiced to see the mechanics of it. Not that hard to learn.

Any questions fire away


Mac


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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8333147
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Good post Mac thanks for sharing.

Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8333149
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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8333160
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Very good tip. Thanks.


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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8333166
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That is very smart and well illustrated Mac!


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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8333169
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Great info.
All our spuds either had a large ring on top or we welded a bar across the top end. no way could we lose the spud. Well unless we were spudding out a larger hole. And then it couldn't slip through your grasp.


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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8333284
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Good stuff. I always make sure to not hold rope in a way that can drag me for the exact reasons you suggested.

I do ocasionally clip a teather to my belt loop while using my fishing spear so that also an option, but it depends on what you're doing. Probably bad place for a heavy spud that's trying to drag you into water.

Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8333305
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That's the way I was taught to carry/use a nightstick/billlyclub, keeps anybody from grabbing the stick and controlling YOU, and gives a really superior grip to the stick.


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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: BigBob] #8333324
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Originally Posted by BigBob
That's the way I was taught to carry/use a nightstick/billlyclub, keeps anybody from grabbing the stick and controlling YOU, and gives a really superior grip to the stick.


BigBob
I'm pretty sure my old man showed me that trick when I was a kid. Using it for other applications didn't click back then. Afterl I seen it used in water rescue class it was a like a Da! moment.

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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8333417
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Great post, Mac!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!! You're teaching this old dog new tricks. I don't have any idea of how many times or miles i have used my spuds out on the backwaters of the Black and Mississippi. I always feel safe with them and now I will be a little safer. This will be passed on to my Son and Grandsons.

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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8333427
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I'm sure most of you have heard or seen the ice spike things you wear hanging out of your sleeves on a rope across your shoulders. Keeps them right where you'd need them in a hurry.


Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.

Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.

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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8334068
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good stuff

I always wondered about pulling some one in with the baton

a class mate of mine proved if you are willing to take the broken hand you can take a baseball bat being swung with full force down at you and stop it with one hand

obviously you want to dodge the bat but not always an option and a broken hand beats a broken head.

batter charged the mound after an inside pitch , took a swing at the pitcher , unfortunately he caught it with his pitching hand as his off hand was gloved.


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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8334089
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Mac, that was a great visual explanation. Thank you!


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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8334433
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Re: Ditching a Strap or Rope (tip) [Re: Macthediver] #8334439
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Offshore fishing mates wrap the leader around their hands in a manner that will keep big tuna and marlin from pulling them overboard. It happens.

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Charles I was going to say the same thing. Looong time ago I was second mate on a charter boat and learned that......jk


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