I believe Trail Life is actually growing. Religious based without the woke. Thought about starting my own a few years ago.

There is a new scouting oganization that's been around for about 10 years that still holds to traditional values; "Trail Life", it is apparentlty growing quite a bit in popularity.
Oops, just noticed that if's already been mentioned.

Trail Life does not require any religious affermation by the kids, however, any adult leaders must agree to a fairly orthodox statement of faith. The statement would be acceptable to most non-woke protestants, Catholics, SDA, and other trinitarian faiths.

I was an Eagle Scout and back when I was in it the BSA was great and for many years they held firm to their code, which included the words, "a scout is morally straight." In fact Levi Strauss quit making their uniforms long ago because one of the owners or executives (I can't remember exactly who, but a big muckety-muck) of the company had a son who was gay and the BSA would not allow him to be a member. Many troops met in local churches, although not directly affiliated with a particular faith, most churches were more than willing to support them. That all changed when they caved to liberal/woke ideals.

As was already said a bunch of what we did would be frowned upon by authorities. Camping in -0 weather for examples. No cabins, no tent heaters. Mile swim across across a reservoir. 50 mile canoe trip/campout. Building towers by lashing together poles. Survival hike that lasted 3 days where we brought no food. Shooting firearms and bows. (lots of gun safety training) A few years ago a guy I know, father of a scout, had to sign a permission slip so his son could carry a pocket knife. I doubt most parents would be okay with the stuff we did.

Early on when I was 11-12 along with first aid I had to start a fire with a maximum of two matches. How many moms today want 12 year olds to learn how to start a fire?

Heck, I'm a lot younger than you and the only thing we didn't do in scouts that you list is go on campout without food. We used to hike up on Mt. Rainer every winter and dig snow caves and camp out in them for the weekend. Did 50 mile backpacks every year.

I live near a very large scouting camp, I truly hope they don't go belly up, ide hate to see it turned into houses or public hunting land (public land here is basically a dog park)

My nephew is in right now. Has girls in it and his mom is one of the scout leaders. Kids love it

I was not in Scouts, 4H instead. But my kid was. First campout we went on, we had to take a class to get permission to carry a pocket knife. Was sitting in class when somebody came around to ask who knew how to run a chainsaw? Needed to cut up firewood for evening ceremony. So I left class to run a chainsaw for an hour or so..........just couldn't carry a pocket knife while doing it.

BTW, the BSA pocket knives by Imperial were actually a pretty good knife to carry around......once you got permission.

My grandson will be awarded his Eagle Rand in about a month. He has completed everything. He has a few girls in his group and a female leader who is very pretty. Should be good for recruiting.

As a kid I went to one scout meeting. Very quickly realized it wasn’t for me. I was already shooting game and skinning. They wanted to talk about life jackets.

I went Tiger to Eagle
my dad also Eagle
my brother also Eagle

we had sisters and wives that did stuff , when I was in they were just making roles for mothers and wives and we just set up some family tents for leaders who brought their wives and daughters on trips.

It really divides up a family if you say only the boys and men can attend

we are capable of behaving around women and girls , so I am not actually upset about allowing Women and Girls , I think the gross miss management of funds , lands and of legal issues was the much larger issue

the summer camp of my youth was sold as part of that miss management of funds , over a square mile with 2 private lakes and river access , now it is lake homes , great just what northern WI needed a few more FIB lake homes.

my own son left scouts shortly after I stopped being a leader , my wife pointed out I could do 4H shooting sports or I could do Scouts but I hadn't the time to do both.
she was of course right there are only 52 weeks in a year , figure around 10 are some sort of holiday , that leaves 42 and I was committed to a 4-H or scout event around 20 of them a year I wasn't doing anything else hardly.

so I left scouts and went that much harder on 4-H shooting sports but was down to around 10-12 weekends a year in all day time commitments.

scouts had made the decision much easier they had just gutted their shooting sports program and in 4-H I had a few restrictions like no shooting human like targets but we could shoot all the turkey and deer and bird , wood chuck , coyote and raccoon targets we wanted.

I could teach anything safe from shotgun , pistol , rifle , muzzle loader ,air pistol , air rifle , and archery.

scouts was anti pistol unless you were in police explorers.

I'm fine with it. They NEED to do something to get past the stigma if they can. Plus having girl and boy scout leaders (I'd assume at all the get togethers.) could help eliminate any future re-occurrences.

However, if they changed the name to include the weirdos that claim to be gender neutral or some crap, then it's a lost cause.

Sounds stupid to me.Sounds 100% woke

In NW MO there are either boy OR girl troops = no combined. Scout camp in the summer ( 1 week sessions) there are 4 weeks of just boys and 1 week of boy/girl troops. Troops get to decide which they are going to. Bought my youngest son 2 different sized shirts with Boy Scouts of America embroidered above the pocket like they had for decades so he didn't have to have one with BSA and now Scouts America on it. Trying hard to keep it like the previous generations around here.

I was respectively asked to leave cause we couldn't afford shiny black dress shoes. Apparently gray hushpuppies were not uniform approved in 1960's something...wasn't impressed with them anyway....

A young shooting student of mine is an Eagle Scout. Terrific, tough young lady. Were I lost or in any sort of bad way in the remorse, I have no doubt she would do a good job with the situation and know how to get out for help.
Hopefully she will be this year’s recipient of a Montana mule deer hunt with me.

Osky

Must have been a pretty uptight scoutmaster.

My mom couldn't afford the uniform pants, just the shirt, hat,and neckerchief. My brother and I wore jeans and nobody cared. I didn't even know there were uniform shoes.

sad decline....I was a scoutmaster and quit

Our VFW is one of the organizations that charter our local chapter for the scouts. Costs have risen so we have help from other organizations. lot of negative talk from many on a national level. At our local level there is not any real change to how they conduct their program(s). Most of the leaders have been involved for several decades so they have managed through the changes and issues.

Bryce