Re: 300 Blackout vs 350 Legend
[Re: Coon Duke]
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02/10/25 04:33 PM
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I use a 300 blkout Ammo is available or can be made from .223 cases
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Re: 300 Blackout vs 350 Legend
[Re: Coon Duke]
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02/10/25 05:14 PM
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to take deer well with a 300blk , Winchester Dear Season XP 150gr is what I found was the best
the 110 soft points did ok
130s were ok
the 110 vmax make nice little groups but for me didn't get the penetration I wanted they went to pieces on deer , no exit even on a neck shot
so while there are a lot more choices for blackout about 12 of them are worth hunting , where most of the 350 is made for hunting
had I not gone 300 years before 350 was available I would have never gone 300 knowing what I know as a hunting gun
you have a 350 you know how it works I would recommend you get another 350 and run some good hunting ammo and not look at 300blk unless it is for a suppressed application , then you want to build it for shooting suppressed and even then the newer sub sonic stuff they are coming out with now is better terminal performance for suppressed.
where 300blk really has it's niece is suppressed LE entry guns , they apparently love them in the Euro anti terrorism units that doesn't make them the most terminal performance , it makes them all the controls and parts other than barrel of a 5.56 that runs suppressed well with a 10 inch barrel and allows for use of 30rd mags well.
30 cal bullets were not really intended to work at 300blk speeds well so it runs into go light to get into the range where they work or get a purpose built bullet which really cuts your options.
looking at midway usa 300aac blackout has 75 options , 31 claim to be hunting , I would take it down to about 12 I would want to shoot a deer with looking at 350 legend there are 20 total options and only 13 claim to be hunting 12 I would want to hunt deer with.
so there isn't that much difference when you take out all the target , sub sonic and non deer hunting rounds.
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Re: 300 Blackout vs 350 Legend
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02/10/25 06:26 PM
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We have a 8.5" are black out and 2 cva break action 350 legends. Boys have shot about I deer with both calibers all deer were killed. 350 is a much better deer round in my opinion and like green county I would never had for the 300 if the 350 was out when I got it. After geting one 350 and seeing the result I got a 2nd and the 300 has not been out since. Nothing wrong with the 300 just the 350 has been better at dropping them, more exits and more damage to the internals.
Recoil difference I can't say neither is enough to notice . hard to get less Recoil than 110 gr suppressed AR but I don't think the 350 had to much more. My kids have no issues with recoil but low recoil and silly caliber restrictions are the only reason I got the black out and 350.
and If you want to hunt with suppressed subs 350 is still better. Bigger heavier bullets.
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Re: 300 Blackout vs 350 Legend
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02/11/25 02:13 PM
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Anyone handload the 350 Legend? Been reading a lot of negative stuff online about problems handloading. I don't but now I'm curious what problems to do people mainly have ?
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Re: 300 Blackout vs 350 Legend
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02/11/25 02:55 PM
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Anyone handload the 350 Legend? Been reading a lot of negative stuff online about problems handloading. I don't but now I'm curious what problems to do people mainly have ? Seems like the crimping/seating is giving guys fits with crinkled necks.
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Re: 300 Blackout vs 350 Legend
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02/11/25 02:57 PM
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I think part of the problem was early on , everyone wanted to run a 0.357 bullet because it was what was available
however the 350legend is a 9mm 0.355 bullet so loaded ammo came first and it took time for .355 bullets that were designed for faster than 9mm luger velocities to come around
if you recall a lot of the early 350 legend ammo that was cheap was 147gr bullets on Winchester cases
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Re: 300 Blackout vs 350 Legend
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02/11/25 04:21 PM
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Can a guy suggest a .243? Mine has minimal recoil and is a great grocery getter. Even better supressed. That's what I shoot most everything with. Or .223/5.56
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Re: 300 Blackout vs 350 Legend
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02/11/25 05:18 PM
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Todd:
Not sure if you handload, but, if you do or if you have access to someone who does, I suggest that you consider what I have done for years: use a rifle that fits the shooter in a standard caliber. I have several Remington Model 7 rifles, some with barrel lengths as short as 18.5 inches. In calibers of .260 Rem, 7mm-08 and .308 Win. In either of the rifles, you can craft a reduced load that is still very effective using light-for-caliber bullets. I usually use Nosler ballistic tip bullets, but any cup and core bullet will perform well at reduced velocities and will be a joy to shoot for recoil-sensitive people. Hodgon 4895 powder is probably the best for reduced loads, which can be as little as 60% of the maximum published load. My wife and kids (when the kids were younger) used reduced loads to harvest several truckloads of deer that did not know they were shot with reduced loads. Out to 200 yards, there is really nothing lost and the difference in recoil and muzzle blast is significant. When/if you want to use full-strength loads, you can easily do it and you will have the rifle for it.
Chuck
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Re: 300 Blackout vs 350 Legend
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02/11/25 06:11 PM
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Can a guy suggest a .243? Mine has minimal recoil and is a great grocery getter. Even better supressed. Dont you know 6mm is a lil sissy caliber! Need at least 30cal to do anything  Thats the word on the street haha. The doe last year at 500 something yards didnt get the memo though! 95 grain sierra game king did work
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