I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
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02/11/25 02:01 AM
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If so, please delete it. Elon Musk said he discovered FEMA is giving 59 million dollars to New York City to house illegal Immigrants in luxury hotels. Apparently, FEMA immediately said they will cease doing it. Meanwhile, the citizens in North Carolina that were ravaged by the hurricane said FEMA is ignoring them for federal aid. If so this is a travesty.
Last edited by Grandpa Trapper; 02/11/25 02:03 AM.
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Re: I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
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Why should my tax dollars pay for people in the Carolinas or illegals in hotels?
The most un-American statement I've ever heard anyone make! The people in the Carolinas are Americans! Most Americans want to help other Americans in time of death and destruction...including most of us being OK with our tax dollars being used to help our fellow citizens in times of serious overwhelming need. You're not really anti-tax...you are just throwing statements out there like this because of your incurable TDS.
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Re: I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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DWC I saw that here when the town of Quenemo got flooded some years back. No houses wiped off the map but who got what seemed to have no rhyme or reason
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Re: I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
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Why should my tax dollars pay for people in the Carolinas or illegals in hotels?
If I choose to donate to the cause (which my business and I did for hurricane recovery) that is different story. But the federal government ripping me off so it can provide a safety net for those who choose not to provide for themselves is still just ripping me off.
This is a very unpopular sentiment, but Davy Crockett, then US congress member, shared his thoughts on government spending: "Mr. Speaker -- I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House; but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into argument to prove that Congress has no power under the Constitution to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. "Mr. Speaker, I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week's pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks." He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as no doubt it would, but for that speech, it received but a few votes and was lost. Like many others, I desired the passage of the bill, and felt outraged at its defeat. I determined that I would persuade my friend Crockett to move for a reconsideration the next day." From : Davy Crockett
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Re: I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
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02/11/25 09:27 AM
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Why should my tax dollars pay for people in the Carolinas or illegals in hotels?
Comparimg apples to cow manure really. So you are anti FEMA for all natural disasters or just flooding in general? Can you critical approach be applied for all tropical storm damage? Do you discount damage done by earthquakes, wild fires, tornadoes and ice storms too or just floods? Trying to figure out your position is all. The casual brag of your charitable nature is duly noted though, at work we call that a "Look at me" moment, well done.
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Re: I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
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02/11/25 09:47 AM
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Why should my tax dollars pay for people in the Carolinas or illegals in hotels?
The most un-American statement I've ever heard anyone make! The people in the Carolinas are Americans! Most Americans want to help other Americans in time of death and destruction...including most of us being OK with our tax dollars being used to help our fellow citizens in times of serious overwhelming need. You're not really anti-tax...you are just throwing statements out there like this because of your incurable TDS. Commie talk. Welfare mentality. How much will you pay this year in taxes? Last year?
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Re: I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
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Re: I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
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And if a tornado devastates your area they shouldn't get assistance cause they should have prepared better...it's one of the few things the gov't is good for, but cut the waste and corruption. Correct. Pay for insurance. Save money. Be prepared. Don't expect a handout or others to rescue you.
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Re: I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
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Grandpa, if you really want to know how this migrant ( not supposed to be illegals ) grant program works, that was passed by congress, go to the FEMA website. Many grant programs are routinely mismanaged and or abused or frauded by Americans and non-Americans. If you want it to stop, end all the grant programs.
OR you can fill your brain with the collective knowledge of Tman members.
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Re: I hope this isn’t considered a political statement
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Sure, insurance, save money, thats great, I'm talking short term assistance immediately after the event... If that's too much for you I don't know what to say... I don't know what to say to others who don't get my simple position. It's not the taxpayers problem that houses burn in California, floods happen in the Carolinas, hurricanes occur on the coast, tornados hit in Oklahoma or that illegals have no place to nest. It's also not the taxpayers responsibility to provide welfare in any form. Regarding disasters, I'm not talking about handing out water and blankets or providing security from looters and other criminal types. That is appropriate. People should be charitable however and give as the can, but more importantly, as they choose. I expect and respect self sufficiency. And, not getting shaken down by the government.
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