Thanks for the info those are crazy high CRP payments. What do you mean by insurance scamming. For a farmer that means years in the clink if caught and absolutely not worth it. I keep 7-10 years worth of every load corn, wheat, silage as proof of yield off every field and so does my crop insurance agency.

Is CRP one of the programs that is going to be affected by the funding freeze?
As a guy who watches acres and acres of habitat pushed over every year to grow more canola I am a believer that the CRP programs you guys have are terrific in general.
But I ask this because in the last day I’ve read countless articles about the USDA funding freeze for certain programs and conservation contracts. Has all USDA funding actually been frozen?

Last i saw reported government subsidies make up about 40% of net farm income for US farmers

It doesn't mater what they call the office or the payment it is all US tax dollar money. It doesn't mater if it comes is a dozen checks. As far as me talking about it on the web. Is it that the money was not paid to them or that they don't want the tax payer to know about it.

The largest farms locally have full time Grant Writers, they get plenty of tax money. Full disclosure, I'm supposed to be getting $10,000 grant this year, the state sent me an email regarding Bird Flu transmission to livestock and how to stop it, I suggested an idea and they are giving me $10,000 to implement it, I'll personally be spending an extra $15,000 to bring the idea to fruition.

https://farm.ewg.org/index.php

Click on your state then on your county to see who receives what.

I dont trespass or advocate it.

The law needs changed. If a landowner is getting subsidized by the public IMO that subsidized land should be open to public. Hunting fishing camping picnicing etc. All with the same laws that apply to BLM and National forest. No damage, no trash etc. Landowner has the right to farm run cattle live on it, pass it down to heirs.

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If you look, lots of names are on there more than once

When I have looked at land (not looking to buy) in W KS and E CO I have been pretty surprised at the CRP rental rates. Bottom ground without wetlands designation would be $180-$220 here. I had a 5 acre patch of bottom put into CRP. Great deer habitat problem was it was a constant job fighting tree sprouts. Took it out and it is still farmed. Around here a lot of operators farming several thousand acres participate in crop insurance scamming. The non-greedy keep it on a very small scale. Transfer grain from the field, claim a loss, take grain to bins owned by the operation, feed out or sell over time, leave a few select poor patches for proof if needed. Small scale but ripping off none the less. The greedy ones get caught. Huge producer in Gallatin, MO plead guilty. A couple of others have been caught but were greedy or not smart.

I did just complete some forest stand improvement for cost share. Was just submitted and will be interesting to see when the payment comes through. I will gladly take a delay in return for taking out the waste.

I would like to see crop insurance go completely private.

When I look this up locally the same farm under different names is #1 and #3 and also #20, why is the same farm operating under 3 different names?

Interesting site, Danny. I noticed the duplication among my neighbors too.

More money, I reckon.

Interesting stuff, a lot of money being thrown around.

There our very few small farmers any more!(making a living off farming)
My cousins farm 3000 acres ,and he told me that they take the place of 20 farmers in the 1970s

With a few limitations I agree with this. The public should get use from public money spent.

Lots of people making a living off 10 acres or less.
Look into all the people that have farm stores and sell at local farmer markets.


Had a neighbor that had 1/2 acre in raspberries. Had my kids and his picking berries to sell and also did U-pick.
He made over $3000 for 1/2 acre. He didn't put much effort into it, no pruning, fertilizing or any other work than picking and selling.
He did rotate a small chunk out every year and plant a new row tho.
He had all sorts of Raspberries, purple, red, yellow, black.

He could of done more work and gotten much better yields I'll bet but he didn't want to do the work.

Now look at Asparagus, pumpkins, Strawberries, and flowers.

Point is you have to sell direct to consumer, get rid of the middleman who's taking all the profits.

This thread is very interesting to read, way different happenings in the Eastern 2/3rds of the country vs the Western States that are largely owned by the Feds. Definitions of small vs large and being able to make a living off x number of acres is also different.

One thing I'll say is a lot of the labor for some of these operations is going the way of robotics especially in the dairy and confined feeding areas. There are several dairymen on Facebook show the robotics in their barns and have seen a 10,000 head ewe facility that used robots for several parts of the labor. Things are changing and most small farms I've been around are very inefficient .

I posted this link a few years ago. My neighbor got paid for tobacco thy never planted.

I also don't know of anyone who ever received 50,000.00 plus in foodstamps.

Both programs are funded with taxpayer money.

The problem with H2A program is that the farmers that bring the workers over are paying them.more..per govt instructions, than they pay the Americans that qork for thwm. And the H2A Program participant do not pay taxes(at least in wyoming)

The H2A guys that worked where Jerry did mde more money than he did. He made 600 to 700 less a check because he had to pay taxes.

It's BS.

H2A workers do pay federal income tax and state taxes if there are state taxes, unless the state does not collect on non residents.

Bryce