True. I seem to recall reading that nobody wanted them here. Except the guys that could build bombs and rockets.

Let the desert people fight. It's what they do.

Have the heroes at DOGE cut off the Israel welfare?

Can't. Camp David Agreement.

Words like dying for something sounds noble until the reality of events like Masada sinks in. People are in a desperate situation when they feel they have no recourse other than martyrdom.
When one is buried people walk over you and hear nothing, cemeteries are silent cities. If we hear anything its from our own imaginations.

You know more about that than me but we have the World Champion Contract Breacher in the White House should breaking that deal be profitable for him, his kids and cronies. My guess is condos and casinos in Gaza pay better--until he bankrupts it.

By the way, speaking of cronies. Congratulations to the State of Illinois. Trump pardoned Rod Blagojevich--corrupt convicted felon democrat. Law and order!

How deeply did you look into Blagojevich case?

He only knows what to media tells him to think
Joe Rogan has an older podcast about this very subject

I believe that there is an ulterior motive. Right now gaza is a wasteland nobody wants, to allow Palestinians to remain there is just idiotic, another war is just inevitable . So Trump expressing his desire for Gaza, for a base or hotels, whether genuine or not, now gives value and creates desire among Arabs and others who will hopefully step up and out bid the US, 3D chess? maybe. I would bet one of the Arabs has a piece of desert they would house Palestinian's on in exchange for ocean front property.

I think it was less 3d chess and more talking without having put serious thought into it.

I"m glad some of you are privy to intelligence that Trump sees as well as predicting the future.

I'm no seer but I'm pretty certain turning Gaza into the "riviera of the middle east" under U.S control never happens...

First of all nobody wants the Palestinians, they've been a burr under the saddle to everyone forever, but none of the neighboring countries want the US there....So Trump claims he wants Gaza, and keeps saying it to keep up the pressure on the Arab countries , who will eventually cave and take on the aggravation of dealing with Palestinians, Saudi Arabia has all the money they can ever use so will probably bankroll the whole thing as long as they can get Jordan and Egypt to babysit the Gazans for awhile....Does anyone seriously think Trump, or the US actually wants that crap hole?

That's my take, it's just another high stakes negotiation

Wow. The simple have come to play. Nothing like ignorance of history, revisionist rhetoric, and fear of reality to bring round 2, 3 ,4, ad infinitum.

The faithful cannot just claim 3-D or 4-D chess whenever Trump says something stupid. And, it was stupid.

Note: You said maybe, and not actually 3-D chess, so this is not necessarily in direct response.

Isreal was a creation of the UN with U.S support.

P.S. I'll let les give you the long version.

The U.S. was the first country to recognize Israel after the European jews immigrated there ILLEGALLY. It was called Palestine and part of the British empire. The illegals blew up police stations and other stuff. The Arabs living there fled. The U.S. recognized their sovereignty and the British also shortly after. The Arab refugees were told they could not return.

Most every country has borders established by war. Right or wrong its the world we live in. If Israel wants to remain Israel they need to do it their selves. Pretending they are blameless is disingenuous.

Yes I know. The shaman of some bronze age tribe told them they were gods chosen people. What was he supposed to tell them? That it was someone else? Every shaman of every tribe world wide has made that claim.

Look up the Belfort declaration. It explains the creation of Israel.

White Paper of 1939 is another to look up

Coming from a guy who hires illegal laborers.

Most all Trump haters either think they are smarter than Trump or want to be, Bless their hearts.

Simple question, if you had no choice in the matter, would you rather live next to an Israeli or Palestinian?

Keith