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Frozen ground trappers? #8341128
02/13/25 02:07 PM
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Vinke Offline OP
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How do you do it?

Under special permit I can use conventional sets for trapping coyotes.
The ground I am setting is clay and road bedding that is hard as a rock.

I chipped 5 sets in, but it sucked,,,,, to much work ……

Thought about bringing a torch next time to melt the top couple of inches…

I did experiment with 2 above ground sets, but they consumed a lot of my mixed dirt…

Thanks

Love

Vinke


Ant Man/ Marty 2028
just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341134
02/13/25 02:17 PM
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I've been setting by using trees and bushes as my tie off but that obviously relies on availability.

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341135
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I have adapted Major Boddicker's method of using salted sand and the cheapest 1 gallon Ziploc type bags, usually store band. I get sand at Lowe's I just use the play sand, livestock salt 10 part sand to 1 salt.. Either chip out a bed or just find a depression, low spot etc. add salted sand, put trap in bag, I use 4 coiled #3, bed in the sand, cover with the salted sand, I usually blend it in a but, but have caught with no blending.

I had and ADC job last winter, homeowner was checking sets for me. I put in sets, three days later it snowed 12 inches, then 5 days later another 12 inches of snow, then it drop below zero for 10 days. Then a week later it rained and melted. I never remade or relured the sets, and homeowner didn't see nay coyotes on his security cameras (which is why he called me to begin with as he has 2 small dogs). Left sets for 2 more weeks, then caught two coyotes 3 days apart.

I have also chopped out beds, find a hatchet works well for that, then poured in salt or calcium chloride to soften bed and made set the next day after it had softened up.


Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure

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Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341143
02/13/25 02:31 PM
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Use a Pulaski, firemen's axe, to dug begs.

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341144
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Thanks Mike,,,,,,


Ant Man/ Marty 2028
just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341145
02/13/25 02:32 PM
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Borrow your Brother in Laws chainsaw and use it to notch out trap beds.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8341146
02/13/25 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Use a Pulaski, firemen's axe, to dug begs.


I must be rubbing off on you,,,,,, you type and spell like me now ……lol

Love

Vinke


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: 160user] #8341149
02/13/25 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 160user
Borrow your Brother in Laws chainsaw and use it to notch out trap beds.


The Castansa model you posted earlier?


Ant Man/ Marty 2028
just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341153
02/13/25 02:40 PM
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I just use an axe. Sometimes a pick axe. Its a lot of work. Neither is better than the other. I always thought a pulaski worked best in nonfroze dirt. Its fast. Just unwieldy to carry.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341155
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are snares an option?

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: wallfur] #8341161
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Originally Posted by wallfur
are snares an option?


No not allowed under special permit…


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8341163
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Use a Pulaski, firemen's axe, to dug begs.

X2


Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8341175
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Use a Pulaski, firemen's axe, to dug begs.



My Pulaski in 92-94 was named "Miss January" and I even carved that it it's handle. I finally broke it in the Salmon River breaks sometime in 94. It was a sad day.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: 160user] #8341179
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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Use a Pulaski, firemen's axe, to dug begs.



My Pulaski in 92-94 was named "Miss January" and I even carved that it it's handle. I finally broke it in the Salmon River breaks sometime in 94. It was a sad day.


You WERE a stud…… hope the panties I sent fit…..
love
Vinke


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Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341181
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I use a 3" masonry chisel

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Yes sir] #8341184
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I use a 3" masonry chisel


Now you have me thinking,,,,,, battery powered roto hammer …..
nice!
Canyon brothers for life!


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Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341185
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I have used a pick axe. It’s a lot of work.


Eh...wot?

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341188
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Originally Posted by Vinke
Originally Posted by Yes sir
I use a 3" masonry chisel


Now you have me thinking,,,,,, battery powered roto hammer …..
nice!
Canyon brothers for life!

grin
I do think the boys up north that that trap more on bare frozen ground do use a rotary hammer.

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341232
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Peat, semi-dry dirt, and table salt... premixed at home and toted in a 10 qt. metal pail.

Re: Frozen ground trappers? [Re: Vinke] #8341245
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I chop beds out with an axe, lay wax paper, bed my trap, wax paper again, and cover with snow. I use drags or chain to a tree

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