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Re: Gold
[Re: KeithC]
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 02/12/25 10:46 PM
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Think of this as a personal finance situation, you have $100,000 in debt that you pay 4% interest on. You also have $33,333 in Gold sitting in your vault at home not making interest, not really doing anything, just sitting. Do you sell the Gold to pay down the debt or do you just sit on the Gold and continue to pay interest? You logically pay the debt with the gold.  Keith Maybe.   Could always default on the debt and keep the gold. Not so much to a government entity but gold is a hidden asset.  
 
  
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Re: Gold
[Re: Pafoxman]
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 02/13/25 09:25 AM
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I don't have an opinion on this but I do have a question... A dollar is worth a dollar because it's an agreed value. Gold is a precious metal but isn't it valuable also because it's agreed that it is? The Bible says in the end times a loaf of bread will buy a bag of gold. So at some point, bread will be more valuable than gold because it is needed more. So I guess my question is why is it necessary to back paper money with gold anymore? Everything is agreed value.. until it isn't. you can't print more gold there is only so much.  If your currency is Backed up  with a hard assets it has value  when it's backed up with it worth something because we say so  and can be printed tell it's worth nothing.  See a difference?   1oz  gold used to be a $20  face value now its 3k in value.  guess what is still the same value it just takes 3 k now to buy what $20 used to.   The dollars are worth less and that's why holding  cash in a low  to no interest savings account or tucked away at home  and not invested is not smart because it looses value each year.   You need your money working making money  at least at  the rate of inflation.     Your bread  reasoning is why I think ammo is more valuable than gold.  
 
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Re: Gold
[Re: Trappin Arkansas]
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 02/13/25 09:35 AM
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More gold is being discovered daily,,,,,the supply is increasing 
  Yesterday morning on Bloomberg they were discussing trumps gold comments 
 
  I didn’t catch it all,,,,but what I heard was,,,,
  The gold that the US holds is not valued at current prices,,,
  If it was valued at current values, the debt picture would be very different 
  Wish I was able too get a replay on that particular segment but haven’t found it 
 
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Re: Gold
[Re: spjones]
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 02/13/25 09:44 AM
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More gold is being discovered daily,,,,,the supply is increasing 
  Yesterday morning on Bloomberg they were discussing trumps gold comments 
 
  I didn’t catch it all,,,,but what I heard was,,,,
  The gold that the US holds is not valued at current prices,,,
  If it was valued at current values, the debt picture would be very different 
  Wish I was able too get a replay on that particular segment but haven’t found it
 
 
 
  They don't want the world to know  
 
  
NRA and NTA Life Member www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com       
 
  
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Re: Gold
[Re: Providence Farm]
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 02/13/25 09:56 AM
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I don't have an opinion on this but I do have a question... A dollar is worth a dollar because it's an agreed value. Gold is a precious metal but isn't it valuable also because it's agreed that it is? The Bible says in the end times a loaf of bread will buy a bag of gold. So at some point, bread will be more valuable than gold because it is needed more. So I guess my question is why is it necessary to back paper money with gold anymore? Everything is agreed value.. until it isn't. you can't print more gold there is only so much.  If your currency is Backed up  with a hard assets it has value  when it's backed up with it worth something because we say so  and can be printed tell it's worth nothing.  See a difference?   1oz  gold used to be a $20  face value now its 3k in value.  guess what is still the same value it just takes 3 k now to buy what $20 used to.   The dollars are worth less and that's why holding  cash in a low  to no interest savings account or tucked away at home  and not invested is not smart because it looses value each year.   You need your money working making money  at least at  the rate of inflation.     Your bread  reasoning is why I think ammo is more valuable than gold.  Gold only has value because it's shiny and makes nice jewelry and works well as electrical contacts. It has no inherent value, it's only valuable because we humans like it. A loaf of bread has more inherent value than a shiny rock.  
 
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Re: Gold
[Re: Providence Farm]
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 02/13/25 10:29 AM
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I don't have an opinion on this but I do have a question... A dollar is worth a dollar because it's an agreed value. Gold is a precious metal but isn't it valuable also because it's agreed that it is? The Bible says in the end times a loaf of bread will buy a bag of gold. So at some point, bread will be more valuable than gold because it is needed more. So I guess my question is why is it necessary to back paper money with gold anymore? Everything is agreed value.. until it isn't. you can't print more gold there is only so much.  If your currency is Backed up  with a hard assets it has value  when it's backed up with it worth something because we say so  and can be printed tell it's worth nothing.  See a difference?   1oz  gold used to be a $20  face value now its 3k in value.  guess what is still the same value it just takes 3 k now to buy what $20 used to.   The dollars are worth less and that's why holding  cash in a low  to no interest savings account or tucked away at home  and not invested is not smart because it looses value each year.   You need your money working making money  at least at  the rate of inflation.     Your bread  reasoning is why I think ammo is more valuable than gold.  I get the point... sort of. However, like gold bitcoin can't be printed and has a limited supply. Yet I wouldn't equate the two.  
 
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Re: Gold
[Re: Pafoxman]
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 02/13/25 02:08 PM
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I don't have an opinion on this but I do have a question... A dollar is worth a dollar because it's an agreed value. Gold is a precious metal but isn't it valuable also because it's agreed that it is? The Bible says in the end times a loaf of bread will buy a bag of gold. So at some point, bread will be more valuable than gold because it is needed more. So I guess my question is why is it necessary to back paper money with gold anymore? Everything is agreed value.. until it isn't. No, the Bible doesn't say that. That is a line out of an old Larry Norman song.  
 
  
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Re: Gold
[Re: Boco]
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 02/13/25 02:26 PM
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Gold is one of the rarest elements on the planet. The earths crust is made up of only .oo5 parts per million. So if removing elements from the ground and redistributing them in other places,,,,, is the globe going to spin out of orbit.? Think about it,,,,,, how could it not?  
 
  
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Re: Gold
[Re: Boco]
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 02/13/25 02:29 PM
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 The earths crust is made up of only .oo5 parts per million.
 94.6% of all figures are made up.  
 
  
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Re: Gold
[Re: wetdog]
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 02/13/25 02:29 PM
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When the SHTF gold is worthless, try trading gold for a hind quarter of deer meat and you'll get laughed at  I'd trade a whole deer for a box of 22 ammo though  Gold won't be able to feed you or keep you warm or safe when the grind goes down  Won’t be any dear left to trade at end times…. Love Vinke  
 
  
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Re: Gold
[Re: 160user]
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 02/13/25 02:30 PM
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 The earths crust is made up of only .oo5 parts per million.
 94.6% of all figures are made up.   The more  precise  the  number........the  bigger  the  lie.  
 
  
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Re: Gold
[Re: Trappin Arkansas]
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 02/13/25 02:40 PM
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My post was in response to “ you can't print more gold there is only so much”
  Fact: New gold is minted daily,,,,
  Fact: New discoveries are common,,,,
  Carry on,,, 
 
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