Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: bmunro]
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02/19/25 07:59 AM
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Wanna Be
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I went from cable to chain with the Super Stakes. I’ve been trapping my properties for years and have learned in some areas about 6-8” will hold anything we have to catch. Like you I learned after “trying” to get some out of the deck. I use an auger as well and in some places you’re not even getting 4-6” with a 20v drill. I’ve gone to drags in most of those “hard” areas and only drive stakes where I know I can drill and pull.
As for skunk I’ve THANKFULLY only caught 3 in my life and that’s 3 too many!!
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: bmunro]
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02/19/25 08:05 AM
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On my trapline I have everything from marsh, swamp, hardwood bottoms....to sandy pine woods. Everthing that has a earth anchor either has 18" of chain or cable, or a drag. If the ground is really hard and I have a lot of brush I use a drag. If there are a lot of tree roots I will use the cable as there have been times I can't pull out the anchor and I just leave them as it ain't worth the effort as a lot of timesI will just set on the same spot next season. There are times I have to cable to a tree as the ground is too soft to anchor. The rest get a super stake with chain.
Except for drags and cables around trees, I short chain everything, and I drive my anchor into the ground until I get to the chain on the trap, so that is a full 18". When pulling if I can't get it up with my puller I try to drill a hole next to it, and pull the anchor towards that new hole. If that don't work I unclip my trap, those I set ground with cables get a clip as I know I might loose it, and go about my business. Its not worth my back, time or sanity.
What is all that rambling about? You have to adjust to the soil you are trapping and adjust accordingly.
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: The hammer]
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02/19/25 10:53 AM
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I was a big fan of anchors when they were still cheap enough to be considered disposable. A guy can really beat himself up recovering the darn things, and they’re expensive enough now I don’t want to be leaving 500+ a year behind.
I’m back to rebar. I double stake when I feel the need but mostly run one 24” down hard ground and a long chain.
Cheaper in the long run, easier to get in and out, and actually lighter than cable anchors (don’t need a drill and heavy bit to pre-drill, no heavy driver, etc).
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: Boone Liane]
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02/19/25 11:34 AM
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I was a big fan of anchors when they were still cheap enough to be considered disposable. A guy can really beat himself up recovering the darn things, and they’re expensive enough now I don’t want to be leaving 500+ a year behind.
I’m back to rebar. I double stake when I feel the need but mostly run one 24” down hard ground and a long chain.
Cheaper in the long run, easier to get in and out, and actually lighter than cable anchors (don’t need a drill and heavy bit to pre-drill, no heavy driver, etc). Also like being able to use the rebar to punch a small lure hole or wobble it around a little to make a dirt hole few less tools needed in the bag at a set when going to anchor with rebar.
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: SNIPERBBB]
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02/19/25 03:01 PM
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You have less weight making your wobble hole with a stake driver than carry and extra rebar stake to stake your traps. Using a bullet stake and driver you dont have to worry about the tip plugging like with wolf fang/pogo/stingray type anchors. Bullets are easier to pull with the retrieval ends. Make the wobble hole first with the same stake you’ll use for the trap.
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: Boone Liane]
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02/19/25 03:39 PM
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You have less weight making your wobble hole with a stake driver than carry and extra rebar stake to stake your traps. Using a bullet stake and driver you dont have to worry about the tip plugging like with wolf fang/pogo/stingray type anchors. Bullets are easier to pull with the retrieval ends. Make the wobble hole first with the same stake you’ll use for the trap. Unless youe single staking or using fiberglass stakes, the driver and cable anchor is less to carry and weigh less than 2 rebars unless you're using 12 inch stakes
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: SNIPERBBB]
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02/19/25 04:04 PM
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Boone Liane
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Unless youe single staking or using fiberglass stakes, the driver and cable anchor is less to carry and weigh less than 2 rebars unless you're using 12 inch stakes
A heavy duty driver of any flavor, which is required for hard ground, weighs more than a two foot chunk of 1/2” rebar. OTC drivers won’t last one day on HARD ground, they may last a week if you punch pilot holes, but, than you need to lug around something to make pilot holes. GOOD anchor drivers aren’t light!
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: SNIPERBBB]
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02/19/25 10:07 PM
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i dunno, im still on my original bullet stake driver from 13 years ago. Dont deal with a lot of rock, just heavy clay, frozen clay, and baked clay lol. You’re lucky than. Our ground is not the same! Drivers never last me a year, even pre-drilling.
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: Boone Liane]
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02/19/25 11:00 PM
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i dunno, im still on my original bullet stake driver from 13 years ago. Dont deal with a lot of rock, just heavy clay, frozen clay, and baked clay lol. You’re lucky than. Our ground is not the same! Drivers never last me a year, even pre-drilling. Same here. Usually have a spare or two along just for that reason.
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: Old coy]
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02/20/25 01:27 PM
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One advantage of the chained bullet type stakes is if all your jhooks are welded, it can be really tough for someone else to pull it up! If you have issues with tampering/theft, those buried stakes can help with the theft part. If that is an issue then the deeper you drive them the better. But you’re going to pay in time/effort pulling them too! Seems like there’s trade offs for everything?
Till the thief your dealing with has bolt cutters delt with that before out on the line on public game lands.
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Re: How deep to drive super stakes?
[Re: Old coy]
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02/23/25 02:06 AM
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One advantage of the chained bullet type stakes is if all your jhooks are welded, it can be really tough for someone else to pull it up! If you have issues with tampering/theft, those buried stakes can help with the theft part. If that is an issue then the deeper you drive them the better. But you’re going to pay in time/effort pulling them too! Seems like there’s trade offs for everything?
Yep. I had a 750 I had to do some serious work to in order to reset after someone bent the jaws all up trying to pull it with a fourwheeler. There were four big holes where they had spun all four tires down trying to pull it up, but the trap was still there. I did have somebody steal two one time that were driven through a shot rock landing. No idea how they got them out, I was planning on bringing bolt cutters come pull day. There were just some drifts of snow going in there, no snow around the sets, but I had one set of boot prints going in, no vehicle tracks or multiple tracks like they made multiple trips, just two catch circles about thirty feet apart with trap and all missing. Most of my traps have earth anchors on the end of the chain, with all connections welded, but I mostly use drags or chain off to a tree any more. Earth anchors are great though for dealing with your normal opportunistic thief. You know the kind that just grab it because they see it, not the kind who comes prepared and looking for your traps. Oh, I've broke multiple "mighty hook" S hooks pulling with my homemade puller. My welds held, but if you have enough leverage and it is in solid enough you can snap those S hooks in half. I went to using "cold shuts" welded closed instead of S hooks, but don't know if that is a good idea, if I have to pull hard enough to snap the S hook I might prefer that to having to pull even harder. If I have any sets that are anchored now I try to remember bolt cutters on pull day. I didnt have anything once on a snowmachine and even with a 12 long six inch diameter log I cut and used as a "cheater pipe" I couldn't pull one and had to come back another day to get the trap.
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