|
|
|
Educated beaver
#8278887
12/05/24 01:59 PM
12/05/24 01:59 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2015
NW PA
Trapper_Dusty
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Oct 2015
NW PA
|
I tried and failed to catch an educated beaver. He would have nothing to do with any sort of baited set -- I tried for 10 days or so to entice him into a conibear or snare or foot trap with various lures and peeled sticks. There was no visible lodge or bank den...no good pinch point for a blind set. My only option (that I could see) was to interrupt the dam and set a foot trap in 15" of water to try to catch him. It almost worked, but must not have hooked him up good -- my trap was fired and pulled all the way to my anchor at the end of my drowner wire. He got loose. I'm wishing I had a larger foot trap (we're only allowed a 6.5" jaw spread here in PA). My question is, will that beaver ever lose his sensitivity or will he be forever educated? I wonder, if the place is left to cool off for a month or two, if I could snag that beaver then? Will he still be just as wise months from now?
“It is better to lose your life than to waste it.” ― John Piper
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8279253
12/05/24 11:22 PM
12/05/24 11:22 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2014
Lakes Region Indiana
loosanarrow
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Mar 2014
Lakes Region Indiana
|
Well concealed footholds set blind. Either at a dam break like carl says or where the beaver has been putting its feet. No bait, no lure, minimum disturbance beyond a hole in the dam. This beaver may be educated, but it can not avoid what it can not detect. Footholds WILL miss beaver, even bigger footholds will miss. Thats a drawback of footholds. The advantage that footholds have is they can be set concealed underwater and even a pinched beaver will step in them again and again in different locations, and eventually you will get a good hold. Another possibility is that the beaver will decide to look for safer water and disappear. Either way problem solved for this location for now. Shooting may also work if legal.
I would just leave it, if I was fur trapping, and go look for uneducated beavers. If you are control trapping, welcome to the game, this is where you show why you are the guy they pay the big bucks to get rid of them 100%, every time. If you are doing it on your own land, maybe shoot it if you cant get it after a few more days with well concealed foothold?
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8279685
12/06/24 12:49 PM
12/06/24 12:49 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2015
NW PA
Trapper_Dusty
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Oct 2015
NW PA
|
Thanks for the info guys....I've been trapping since about 1982 but beavers are the one critter I have the least amount of experience with. They seem very easy to catch until you find a tricky one.
“It is better to lose your life than to waste it.” ― John Piper
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8313667
01/15/25 09:40 PM
01/15/25 09:40 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Aug 2011
james bay frontierOnt.
|
The longer you monkey around trying to catch that beaver you are losing money on that job. Time to introduce him to uncle buck.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8345632
02/18/25 10:03 AM
02/18/25 10:03 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2015
NW PA
Trapper_Dusty
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Oct 2015
NW PA
|
I appreciate the tips and ideas!
“It is better to lose your life than to waste it.” ― John Piper
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8346432
02/19/25 08:35 AM
02/19/25 08:35 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
Vinke
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
|
Dam breaks on educated beaver is the worst thing to do.
Ant Man/ Marty 2028 I wonder if there will be enough coffee and middle fingers to make it through the day.
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8346461
02/19/25 09:12 AM
02/19/25 09:12 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2015
NW PA
Trapper_Dusty
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Oct 2015
NW PA
|
What would you say is a better alternative to a dam break on those smart beavers?
“It is better to lose your life than to waste it.” ― John Piper
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Vinke]
#8350808
02/24/25 07:33 AM
02/24/25 07:33 AM
|
Leroy Bob
Unregistered
|
Leroy Bob
Unregistered
|
Dam breaks on educated beaver is the worst thing to do.
What’s the better move? I’m following along to learn. Have a spot I trap every spring. Beavers flooded 40 acres, big lodge next to the dam and another bigger lodge about 150 yards off. They’ve got it so deep it’s hard to trap the runs but the dam affords foothold opportunities.
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8353417
02/27/25 06:31 AM
02/27/25 06:31 AM
|
Leroy Bob
Unregistered
|
Leroy Bob
Unregistered
|
TTT
Vinke, if not the dam break then what set would you make?
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8353740
02/27/25 01:53 PM
02/27/25 01:53 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
Vinke
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
|
I would use a boat , and use blind sets in nature dive areas. A boat allows you to see the beaver perspective of the water…and you to see what they are doing No lure The tray set swamp posted on tman Set up stream and down,,,,the old sow will have a bug out house,,,,usually the first thing I do…
Shotgun. Or 17…
Ant Man/ Marty 2028 I wonder if there will be enough coffee and middle fingers to make it through the day.
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8353942
02/27/25 07:08 PM
02/27/25 07:08 PM
|
Leroy Bob
Unregistered
|
Leroy Bob
Unregistered
|
Appreciate it. Trapping buddy and I have been talking watercraft, so that drives home how I feel about it.
When I say the runs are hard to trap I mean they’re 5-6 feet deep in some spots. Borderline impossible. With a canoe I think we might be able to get away with a little more, however. Wish it was easy to show a map on here.
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8354198
02/27/25 10:42 PM
02/27/25 10:42 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
Vinke
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
NWWA/AZ
|
Double stack 660s? I use a marsh rat boat
Ant Man/ Marty 2028 I wonder if there will be enough coffee and middle fingers to make it through the day.
|
|
|
Re: Educated beaver
[Re: Trapper_Dusty]
#8354653
02/28/25 02:17 PM
02/28/25 02:17 PM
|
Leroy Bob
Unregistered
|
Leroy Bob
Unregistered
|
There’s a monster run from the lodge out into no-man’s land that we’ve never been able to explore, thus the watercraft discussion. The run meanders out into the dead, flooded forest, so I think we’ll be able to find workable depths if we paddle around enough.
Besides double stacking big traps, any advice for a bank den with a 7-foot deep entrance?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|