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Re: Old History photo # 330 #8347362
02/20/25 10:44 AM
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Admiral Byrd’s snow cruiser (designed to explore Antarctica) drives through traffic. Massachusetts, 1939


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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347363
02/20/25 10:47 AM
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Must have been a Massachusetts snow storm....lol....great looking rig


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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347364
02/20/25 10:48 AM
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:)COOL ! ! !
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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347365
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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347366
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Thanks Crowfoot


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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347371
02/20/25 10:54 AM
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Quite welcome, 330 ... and thank YOU for the cool history lessons !
smile
Very interesting to see things I never knew existed.

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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347374
02/20/25 10:58 AM
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I need one grin


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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: Bruce T] #8347376
02/20/25 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
I need one grin

Need?

Go build one


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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347380
02/20/25 11:02 AM
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a few notes on the subject.
A plane on the roof ? ? cool !
And ... its still out there somewhere ?
Go get it Bruce


Antarctica has been a key scientific research site for centuries. With its vast uninhabited frozen sheet, its conditions make exploration a challenge. However, this has not deterred people from trying.

In 1939, a group of American scientists and engineers chose to focus on this frozen land. Before they could set foot there, they needed the right equipment. For this trip, a monster vehicle was born. Construction was led by Thomas Poulter for the polar explorer Admiral Richard Byrd. Byrd’s fourth Antarctic expedition was his most ambitious, as well as the largest.

The scientists would be taken to a playground full of scientific study. What was beneath the ice? Or in the sky? How did the weather compare? The need for both laboratory space and accommodation for several scientists contributed to the size of the cruiser. Released from its construction bay on 24 October 1939, a 32-kilometre long traffic queue snaked through Chicago as people stopped to observe the cruiser. It was a cross between a bus and a tank: the vehicle was designed to hold all research equipment while tackling travel on the icy terrain.

As if its arrival on the isolated Antarctic continent wasn’t enough of an entrance, all this was to take place while carrying an entire aeroplane on its roof. While travelling on roads between Chicago and Boston, a steering fault forced the vehicle into a stream, where it remained for three days. Though a shaky start, it seemed as though almost everything had been thought through and specifically built for Antarctica; from spare tyres in case of emergencies, to its bright red colour to aid visibility.

Hopes were high for Admiral Byrd and the explorers, but some of the cruiser’s qualities ultimately let them down. The tyres were cleverly designed to account for a range of snow depth, but were too smooth to cruise through the snow on first contact. Tyres with no tread were believed to succeed best in these conditions, but this was not the case. In fact, better traction was found when driving backwards.

Devastatingly, the cruiser had to be abandoned, as its bulk and lack of manoeuvrability made it difficult to recover. Its exact whereabouts today are unknown.

Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347381
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Wow! I wouldn't want to get a flat and have to change the tire.


My doctor suggested I start doing squats, so I moved all the beer to the bottom shelf of my fridge.
Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: Trapper7] #8347387
02/20/25 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Wow! I wouldn't want to get a flat and have to change the tire.

Geez I guess


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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347393
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by Trapper7
Wow! I wouldn't want to get a flat and have to change the tire.

Geez I guess

A tire that size ever fell on you, they'd have to scrape you up and bury you in a plastic bag!


My doctor suggested I start doing squats, so I moved all the beer to the bottom shelf of my fridge.
Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: Trapper7] #8347395
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Wow! I wouldn't want to get a flat and have to change the tire.

Interesting that they assumed slicks would do better than treads.

Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: Crowfoot] #8347423
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Originally Posted by Crowfoot
Originally Posted by Trapper7
Wow! I wouldn't want to get a flat and have to change the tire.

Interesting that they assumed slicks would do better than treads.


In polar conditions who would handle what had to be a massive Jack to change the tire? Fuel capacity?
It’s like the Spruce Goose, if someone does have that in an old building somewhere I’d bet it’s worth a not so small fortune. I suspect it was cut up and stripped.

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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347429
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Quite the rig for sure.


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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8347480
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They make emergency Vehicles similar to this here in Minnesota


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Re: Old History photo # 330 [Re: Crowfoot] #8348287
02/21/25 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Crowfoot
a few notes on the subject.
A plane on the roof ? ? cool !
And ... its still out there somewhere ?
Go get it Bruce


Antarctica has been a key scientific research site for centuries. With its vast uninhabited frozen sheet, its conditions make exploration a challenge. However, this has not deterred people from trying.

In 1939, a group of American scientists and engineers chose to focus on this frozen land. Before they could set foot there, they needed the right equipment. For this trip, a monster vehicle was born. Construction was led by Thomas Poulter for the polar explorer Admiral Richard Byrd. Byrd’s fourth Antarctic expedition was his most ambitious, as well as the largest.

The scientists would be taken to a playground full of scientific study. What was beneath the ice? Or in the sky? How did the weather compare? The need for both laboratory space and accommodation for several scientists contributed to the size of the cruiser. Released from its construction bay on 24 October 1939, a 32-kilometre long traffic queue snaked through Chicago as people stopped to observe the cruiser. It was a cross between a bus and a tank: the vehicle was designed to hold all research equipment while tackling travel on the icy terrain.

As if its arrival on the isolated Antarctic continent wasn’t enough of an entrance, all this was to take place while carrying an entire aeroplane on its roof. While travelling on roads between Chicago and Boston, a steering fault forced the vehicle into a stream, where it remained for three days. Though a shaky start, it seemed as though almost everything had been thought through and specifically built for Antarctica; from spare tyres in case of emergencies, to its bright red colour to aid visibility.

Hopes were high for Admiral Byrd and the explorers, but some of the cruiser’s qualities ultimately let them down. The tyres were cleverly designed to account for a range of snow depth, but were too smooth to cruise through the snow on first contact. Tyres with no tread were believed to succeed best in these conditions, but this was not the case. In fact, better traction was found when driving backwards.

Devastatingly, the cruiser had to be abandoned, as its bulk and lack of manoeuvrability made it difficult to recover. Its exact whereabouts today are unknown.

Great Information


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