Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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02/24/25 11:22 AM
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Trapper7
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Some friends of mine run coyotes with hounds. They have been after the state to allow them to run bears for several years.
We had a bear on our deck a couple years ago. It's rare for them to be this far south.
My wife wants me to wear a bracelet that belonged to her grandfather. It says, "Do Not Resuscitate".
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Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: 330-Trapper]
#8351007
02/24/25 11:41 AM
02/24/25 11:41 AM
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We've noticed a big increase in numbers in my area and seen a lot of damage to crops in the past few years. Not uncommon for a farmer to call me and ask if I can trap a problem bear. Fortunately we are in a no quota area but that still doesn't mean one can harvest a bear.
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
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Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: 330-Trapper]
#8351732
02/25/25 09:11 AM
02/25/25 09:11 AM
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Northern MN
Osky
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This is simple. Up the quota. Back around 2000 in Northern MN the drawing tags for my area I think were 2500, now down to225 during a twenty year run of increasing bear populations. 2500 tags may have been strong but watching it get slashed year by year made no sense.
Dave Gerallis was in charge of this situation, a bear loving liberal in charge of bear hunting seasons. Brilliant. Then again it’s Minnesota. He ran off some incredibly smart common sense people working under him, Karen Noyce was just one. If he could have closed the season period he absolutely would have. I’m not the only member here that’s run sideways into that condescending narcissist.
Complicate the matter to bore the interested away then do what they want. Toss in a little dog and pony show for visuals. It’s the Minnesota DNR. This is the way.
Osky
Last edited by Osky; 02/25/25 09:12 AM.
www.SureDockusa.com“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
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Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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02/25/25 09:16 AM
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Northern Minnesota
BernieB.
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I would like to see a spring season added. Instead of jamming everyone into a fall season make two different seasons to expand opportunity and regulate numbers.
Expanding non quota areas is disappointing to me, it would be nice to have a more wide spread population but I understand crop damage is a an issue. There have been more bears killed in the no-quota area than in the quota area for quite a few years in a row.
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Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: BernieB.]
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02/25/25 09:30 AM
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I would like to see a spring season added. Instead of jamming everyone into a fall season make two different seasons to expand opportunity and regulate numbers.
Expanding non quota areas is disappointing to me, it would be nice to have a more wide spread population but I understand crop damage is a an issue. There have been more bears killed in the no-quota area than in the quota area for quite a few years in a row. I'm deep into the non quota area, bears are very rare here, we have the habitat but they would be in fields. I was honestly hoping we could end up in a quota area and keep a few bears around long term.
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Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: BernieB.]
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02/25/25 09:32 AM
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Northern MN
Osky
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I would like to see a spring season added. Instead of jamming everyone into a fall season make two different seasons to expand opportunity and regulate numbers.
Expanding non quota areas is disappointing to me, it would be nice to have a more wide spread population but I understand crop damage is a an issue. There have been more bears killed in the no-quota area than in the quota area for quite a few years in a row. Good fellow I know asked me how to go about baiting last year.. he lives in northern Andover Mn if I’m correct. Sent me pics of two different bears on his bait plus a sow with two cubs. One of the bears was a real decent boar. It was trickier than he thought to get an archery shot in good light that close to noisy humans but he was happy passing on the smaller single. Older boy eluded him. That’s a decent showing of bears within throwing distance of Minneapolis/St. Paul. Osky
www.SureDockusa.com“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
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Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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02/25/25 01:14 PM
02/25/25 01:14 PM
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Steven 49er
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MT, Minnesota has been in the habit of managing hunters rather then bears.
Largely because hunters were complaining about too much competition
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: Steven 49er]
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02/25/25 01:48 PM
02/25/25 01:48 PM
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Northern Minnesota
BernieB.
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MT, Minnesota has been in the habit of managing hunters rather then bears.
Largely because hunters were complaining about too much competition That's true, most of what they have done in the past 10 years has been good, limiting the number of baits, allowing barrels, cutting tags to limit competition. It made for a better quality hunt at first but it has gone way too far and now; it's Way overkill, the quality of hunt available is still there but the hope that hunters would harvest more adult males did work for a while, but now the pendulum has swung way too far the other way. It takes 5-7 years to get a tag. As a guide, I could put hunters on larger adult bears but the attitude of most guided and unguided hunters is more like this: "I waited five years for this tag I am going to shoot a bear. I'm not going to take a chance on waiting for a big one and risk not getting one at all when I won't get to hunt again for another 5 years" 5,326 hunters applied for zone 99 last year. Points creep is not going away any time soon.
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Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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02/25/25 05:41 PM
02/25/25 05:41 PM
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Steven 49er
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I'm not s bear hunter and live in a no quota zone so I couldn't care less what they do.
What o do know is my time here on earth is limited so if the resource can handle it I would want more opportunity and deal with the competition.
To ask any government bureaucracy to limit hunters to enhance quality of experience and then be surprised they went to far is naive.
Manage the resource not people
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Minnesota Bear Possible New Regs
[Re: BernieB.]
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02/25/25 11:42 PM
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Steven 49er
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MT, Minnesota has been in the habit of managing hunters rather then bears.
Largely because hunters were complaining about too much competition That's true, most of what they have done in the past 10 years has been good, limiting the number of baits, allowing barrels, cutting tags to limit competition. It made for a better quality hunt at first but it has gone way too far and now; it's Way overkill, the quality of hunt available is still there but the hope that hunters would harvest more adult males did work for a while, but now the pendulum has swung way too far the other way. It takes 5-7 years to get a tag. As a guide, I could put hunters on larger adult bears but the attitude of most guided and unguided hunters is more like this: "I waited five years for this tag I am going to shoot a bear. I'm not going to take a chance on waiting for a big one and risk not getting one at all when I won't get to hunt again for another 5 years" 5,326 hunters applied for zone 99 last year. Points creep is not going away any time soon. The old saying, careful what you ask for Quality of experience is a devious Midland set
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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