Re: How Important is Scent Control?
[Re: 1Simplemann]
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I guide hunters, and a ton of them (more or less every archery hunter) bring and use that stuff. I don't know what exactly is in it, but I usually tell them they are just paying a high price for water in a spray bottle. My experience, if you are downwind of the animal they aren't going to smell you even if it has been a month since you took a shower, but if you're upwind they are going to smell you no matter what you do, you can have bathed in Scent Killer two hours before and they are still going to smell you. Good quality, clean boots will lower your scent, and various other things, but I wouldn't put anything on traps myself. But feel free to do an experiment with some traps sprayed and some just clean and handled with gloves, then report back to us. You're going to anyways, so I would like to hear your results. 
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Re: How Important is Scent Control?
[Re: bearcat2]
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02/28/25 09:22 AM
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I guide hunters, and a ton of them (more or less every archery hunter) bring and use that stuff. I don't know what exactly is in it, but I usually tell them they are just paying a high price for water in a spray bottle. My experience, if you are downwind of the animal they aren't going to smell you even if it has been a month since you took a shower, but if you're upwind they are going to smell you no matter what you do, you can have bathed in Scent Killer two hours before and they are still going to smell you. Good quality, clean boots will lower your scent, and various other things, but I wouldn't put anything on traps myself. But feel free to do an experiment with some traps sprayed and some just clean and handled with gloves, then report back to us. You're going to anyways, so I would like to hear your results.  The sprays are mostly an anti-bacterial to keep BO at a minimum. Which they do accomplish. They're more or less baking soda (some odor absorption) and peroxide (anti-bacterial). And lets remember, they're targeted to ungulate hunters, and ungulates don't have anywhere near the nose power (or brain power) of a coyote. I think they work better at cleaning up "where you've been" vs fooling anything "you're not there."
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Re: How Important is Scent Control?
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02/28/25 10:58 AM
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I guide hunters, and a ton of them (more or less every archery hunter) bring and use that stuff. I don't know what exactly is in it, but I usually tell them they are just paying a high price for water in a spray bottle. My experience, if you are downwind of the animal they aren't going to smell you even if it has been a month since you took a shower, but if you're upwind they are going to smell you no matter what you do, you can have bathed in Scent Killer two hours before and they are still going to smell you. Good quality, clean boots will lower your scent, and various other things, but I wouldn't put anything on traps myself. But feel free to do an experiment with some traps sprayed and some just clean and handled with gloves, then report back to us. You're going to anyways, so I would like to hear your results.  I totally agree. Unless you take drastic measures, you not going to fool a mature buck or a coyote that is downwind. Look up John Eberhart. He says he can. That's a different story and topic. Anyway, Notice I didn't say that they were downwind of me. I said they crossed where I walked and did not blow up. My boots may have been the reason however if I was adding scent w/ the spray they would have smelled that and blown out of there. I don't know if it helped but I don't think it hurt either. Your right though, I'm going to do it anyway just to see if there is a difference. What's it going to hurt?
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Re: How Important is Scent Control?
[Re: 1Simplemann]
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03/06/25 01:05 AM
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Are you trapping dogs or are you trapping coyotes? Coyotes are not dogs. The terms we use matter in the fight to keep trapping legal.
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Re: How Important is Scent Control?
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Are you trapping dogs or are you trapping coyotes? Coyotes are not dogs. The terms we use matter in the fight to keep trapping legal. Thanks for the tip. Have a nice day.
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Re: How Important is Scent Control?
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03/11/25 05:30 PM
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Are you trapping dogs or are you trapping coyotes? Coyotes are not dogs. The terms we use matter in the fight to keep trapping legal. Thanks for the tip. Have a nice day. I was thinking the same thing when reading this thread but didn’t want to ruffle any feathers.
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Re: How Important is Scent Control?
[Re: 1Simplemann]
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You might also want to consider snares for the coyotes along the river. The vegetation along river trails often make ideal snare locations and may be easier to setup and maintain than traps in muddy conditions.
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Re: How Important is Scent Control?
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You should do well on coyotes along the river. Check out the trails that parallel the river just inside the timberline a short distance. The coyotes really like to travel those corridors. That would also get you a little bit farther away from the coon mayhem as well.
You might consider ditching the trail cam recon on the coyote sets. I believe in many cases it can really hurt your chances of making a catch.
Good Luck on the river, and congrats on another coyote!
They definitely are paralleling the river. Yesterday while checking some beaver traps, I found 5 sets of coyote tracks between the water and the high bank. It's a tight corridor. It's tricky to make a set because the ground is so soft. The stakes won't hold. I figured something out and made 3 sets. No scent control measures used because I didn't have my gloves or my knee pad with me. We will see what happens. I may let them soak to dissipate any human scent. Eventually they have to go through there. They are also running above the high bank. along the fence line. I come back and set that area later w/ the boat while checking beaver traps. I don't even have to touch the ground so they won't even smell that I've been there. I hadn't considered coons but that not a huge deal for me. My grandson wants a coonskin hat. I'm sure they are there even though I didn't see any tracks. I'm curious as to why you think the cameras will hurt my chances. Do you think it's the cameras that are tipping them off? I was thinking it was scent. I have a deer cell camera in a location that I left out over the winter. I hadn't been able to get to it till recently. I haven't had time to go get it but soon will. Anyway, I got daily and nightly pics of coyotes all winter long. Sometimes as many as 3 at once. Thanks for the congrats. More stupid luck than anything. It's been fun and educational.
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Re: How Important is Scent Control?
[Re: Dan Barnhurst]
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You might also want to consider snares for the coyotes along the river. The vegetation along river trails often make ideal snare locations and may be easier to setup and maintain than traps in muddy conditions. I'm considering it. I found a section of woven wire fence that I didn't know about. Several locations look ideal for a snare. I have a buddy who uses snares. I may enlist his help.
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