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Re: Any you good with a pistol
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#8354741
02/28/25 05:05 PM
02/28/25 05:05 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Northern Maine
Bruce T
trapper
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trapper
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Northern Maine
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A bear charge,I do not want a red dot scope.I do not want to be trying to line up a scope with a brown bear or grizzly charging me.
NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA
Proud member of NTA
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
[Re: Bruce T]
#8354750
02/28/25 05:14 PM
02/28/25 05:14 PM
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Joined: Jul 2013
Amite county Mississippi
Wolfdog91
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trapper
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Amite county Mississippi
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A bear charge,I do not want a red dot scope.I do not want to be trying to line up a scope with a brown bear or grizzly charging me. Natural point of aim I think would take over for me at that point honestly. I know when I've gotten charged by hogs in the thick stuff don't really have time to aim past get it pointing at them and we'll...but I carry a semi 9mm with 17 in the mag ...but different then a big bore revolver or something
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
[Re: WI Outdoors]
#8354761
02/28/25 05:26 PM
02/28/25 05:26 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Northern Maine
Bruce T
trapper
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Northern Maine
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In the heavy mountain laurel thickets of Virginia and west Virginia have had black bear try to run me over while being chased by hounds.Get centered good and fire.Not a real charge as the bear is simply trying to get away and I was in the trail the bear was getting out of there on,but the bear is coming at you and I want it dead.
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
[Re: Bruce T]
#8354776
02/28/25 05:42 PM
02/28/25 05:42 PM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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trapper
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Green County Wisconsin
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A bear charge,I do not want a red dot scope.I do not want to be trying to line up a scope with a brown bear or grizzly charging me. just because you have it doesn't mean you have to use it , and it lines up faster than irons, if you are at point shooting range just don't use dot or irons not a scope in the traditional sense it is like a window with a heads up display all you do is look through the window and the dot is there unless your grip sucked but then your front sight wasn't there either
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
[Re: Bruce T]
#8354780
02/28/25 05:52 PM
02/28/25 05:52 PM
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Joined: Nov 2024
Alaska
AK Timber Tramp
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Alaska
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A bear charge,I do not want a red dot scope.I do not want to be trying to line up a scope with a brown bear or grizzly charging me. I do. I don't have to line up a red dot...where the dot is, the bullet follows. You can cover a bear skull with your front sight and still be off enough to hit a shoulder (which results in the bear dying hours or days after the human who fired the shot). I want whatever gives me the greatest odds of being able get a bullet in the bear's noggin while simultaneously releasing my bowels in terror
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
[Re: WI Outdoors]
#8354785
02/28/25 05:58 PM
02/28/25 05:58 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Northern Maine
Bruce T
trapper
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trapper
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Northern Maine
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Greencountrypete I tryed a red dot scope and did not like it for close range shooting such as a bear charge.To much to think about.Keep it simple.Point aim and fire.Bring the handgun back down and fire again when your front sight comes across your target again.All takes practice.Alot of times that bear is not coming at you in a straight line either.
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
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#8354873
02/28/25 07:29 PM
02/28/25 07:29 PM
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Joined: Jan 2025
Alaska
FishingHoleFind
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trapper
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Alaska
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I can shoot a quarter at five yards, a human target at fifteen, and at thirty I can hit plywood. My hands aren't as steady as I would like. If I use a rest I can get a nice three inch grouping at 15 yards but it doesn't help me much in the woods.
Edit: iron sight. Never tried a scoped pistol.
Last edited by FishingHoleFind; 02/28/25 07:31 PM.
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
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#8354926
02/28/25 08:24 PM
02/28/25 08:24 PM
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Joined: May 2008
Mn
nightlife
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trapper
Joined: May 2008
Mn
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/03/full-7756-250148-48228cb8_5adb_4138_aed1_20b365a33382.jpeg) 5 shots at 30 yards with a Cimarron arms SAA in 38 special, ya that flyer is annoying and all my fault but that group is fairly standard for me minus the flyer, well most times Yes I am a good shot and I have pistols with and without dots and while my carry gun is iron sights I find I can shoot faster and more accurately with a dot I just haven’t made the jump to having one on my EDC but it’s coming ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/03/full-7756-250156-36a79526_bc7c_426a_ab71_84fe266cd305.jpeg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/03/full-7756-250157-36a79526_bc7c_426a_ab71_84fe266cd305.jpeg) I love the challenge of shooting the old type guns as well as modern ones
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
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#8354942
02/28/25 08:51 PM
02/28/25 08:51 PM
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Joined: Feb 2014
Ky
jbyrd63
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trapper
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Ky
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/03/full-40419-250159-bbae4421_315e_4a80_838c_7af3bade11ed.jpeg) My CC 380 1 shot 1 kill. Took my cc test with 9 mm ruger. All 20 rounds cover with a golf ball. I wanted to shoot at 30 yards but instructor thought I was nuts
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
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#8355047
03/01/25 01:30 AM
03/01/25 01:30 AM
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Ohio
Willy Firewood
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trapper
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Ohio
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I am outstanding with a handgun. .22 to .454 Iron sights only. I do paint the front sight with pink fingernail polish.
No experience with red dots.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
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#8355053
03/01/25 02:13 AM
03/01/25 02:13 AM
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Idaho
bearcat2
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Idaho
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I wouldn't say I'm any great shakes with a pistol, but I've killed a lot of stuff with one. All I packed cat hunting with hounds for years was a Ruler single six with a leupold 2 power scope on it. It all depends on how you are planning on using it. If you are going to take careful aimed shots at a stationary target a powered scope is the way to go, but they are practically useless at a moving target, you are back to point and shoot. And most pistols don't balance as well with one. Only red dots I ever messed with had too big a dot (like 3-5 MOA) for precision shooting, but were pretty fair for fast acquisition. Fiber optic or laser grip sights are faster in my opinion though, and if you are going to carry concealed are less bulky. My CC pistol is a polymer 357 that fits in my front pocket, which it wouldn't do with a red dot. I'm not extremely accurate with it and its low pro fixed sights, but with time I can hit a pop can at 10 yards every time, and in a hurry I can empty it into a paper plate at that range, which is farther than I would probably be shooting at an attacker. Good enough for what its for, but I wouldn't want to hunt with it.
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
[Re: Willy Firewood]
#8355067
03/01/25 06:10 AM
03/01/25 06:10 AM
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Northern Maine
Bruce T
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Northern Maine
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I am outstanding with a handgun. .22 to .454 Iron sights only. I do paint the front sight with pink fingernail polish.
No experience with red dots. Same here except I use orange
NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA
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Re: Any you good with a pistol
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#8355069
03/01/25 06:13 AM
03/01/25 06:13 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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"Grumpy Old Man"
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williamsburg ks
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90% of the time my pistol shots are at about 5 feet and 99% of those shots hit in the exact spot I want them too. I miss a squirrel or rabbits head about 30% of the time at 25 yards or more. If I hunt rabbits or squirrels deliberately rather than taking a shot of opportunity I use a rifle. The most likely scenario I would need one to use as a weapon it will likely be 5 feet or so as well. So I dont own one. Chance of me getting in some kind of combat situation are a lot less than being in say a fatal car crash. I do use scopes on hi power rifles and some 22's. Odds are I will want to shoot out there a ways and I want better accuracy than I get with irons. Sometimes I do hunt deer with irons if I wont get 100 yard shot anyway. Sometimes with a pistol.
If you like red dots get a few. By all accounts you can shoot faster accurately. I just dont want to spend that kind of money just to keep up with the Jones's.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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