Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: FishingHoleFind]
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03/04/25 01:40 PM
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Steven 49er
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Lots of competition in these parts. It's part of the fun
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: Sasquatch91]
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03/04/25 01:47 PM
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wy.wolfer
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Would you like it if someone came and sat under your deerstand when you were hunting? Do unto others. If i see traps i look elsewhere, if i see someone hunting, great job they beat me there. How about if they flag it as "their hunting spot" but don't show up to hunt?
Last edited by wy.wolfer; 03/04/25 04:02 PM.
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Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: FishingHoleFind]
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03/04/25 02:13 PM
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Oh Snap
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Trapped beaver for many years. Never had a problem until a family from Minnesota showed up and it was game on. I moved further away but leaving a snowmachine trail it became not only beaver.
I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: FishingHoleFind]
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03/04/25 03:01 PM
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20scout
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I've had trappers set on top of mine. Decided if they want the beavers that bad they can have them. Pulled and moved on.
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
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Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: FishingHoleFind]
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03/04/25 04:47 PM
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chippewatrapper
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I was basically SOL on Beavs this year. my family land (without permission) and 2 public spots were trapped out several weeks before the seasoned opened by the USDA, a local university is studying another, I found that somebody else had already set up at one, and several other "promising areas" I have seen in years past have mysteriously dried up, leaving me one colony. some deer hunters tipped me off to another good area, I just wish it wasn't 30 miles south.
So to answer your question, if somebody else is hunting or trapping in an area, I go somewhere else. I've dealt with too many assholes who don't care about anyone else. I absolutely hate gun deer hunting due to people who don't respect other people's hunts. If I'm in my tree stand and some guys start setting up for a drive and they see me, I'll simply leave because that group of middle aged guys obviously need the deer more than 16 year old me.
WTA NTA Chippewa rod and gun
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Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: FishingHoleFind]
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03/04/25 05:02 PM
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waggler
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Get off the beaver colonies that are on the road system. One place to look is on the mainstem of major rivers. There are usually plenty of river running beaver that aren't in a classic colony type of system.
"My life is better than your vacation"
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Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: FishingHoleFind]
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03/04/25 06:03 PM
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8117 Steve R
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If there are traps there already I woildn't set it. If there were flags and no traps I would set it with the expectation I might have a dispute.
Steve WTA NRA
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Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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03/04/25 06:13 PM
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FishingHoleFind
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Get off the beaver colonies that are on the road system. One place to look is on the mainstem of major rivers. There are usually plenty of river running beaver that aren't in a classic colony type of system. The river is actually the place I've had the most sucess trapping, and I haven't had a lot of competition. The ice is almost broken up enough that I can set up on the rivers again. If there are traps there already I woildn't set it. If there were flags and no traps I would set it with the expectation I might have a dispute. Yesterday I saw a dam with tape but no signs of traps. I don't know if they were trying to call dibs or if they trapped it out before the freeze or if they just put the flag on the dam and they were trapping on the lodge itself. To make matters more confusing some lodges have tape that's several years old.
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Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: FishingHoleFind]
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03/04/25 06:44 PM
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Dirt
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The reason survey flagging is used in much of Alaska is because of snow. You mark live houses preseason, so you can find live houses after 4 or 5 feet of snow. Finding lodges after snow can be difficult. If you find a hump you suspect is a lodge after the snow, you will have to dig down to figure live or not. I don't remove flagging when I am done. I imagine others don't.
P.S. When fall river trapping I flag sets, so I can find them when driving by with the boat. A lot of that flagging also may stay.
Last edited by Dirt; 03/04/25 06:53 PM.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Trapping beaver on public land, etiquette?
[Re: martentrapper]
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03/05/25 02:22 AM
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FishingHoleFind
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What's stopping you from using the native corporation. land? Is it the village Corp for Cordova, or the regional, AHTNa I assume. Will they sell permits? What about the airport? The Native Corp is for the local native village, so they set their own policies. You can get permission to forage or hike on native land but they only allow hunting, trapping, and fishing for the people who belong to the Corp. There's also a number of easments that allow you to pass through native lands but you can't hunt/trap them. You can fish on an easment, weirdly, because all waters in the state belong to the state, even when the land around and under the water aren't. You can also trap on/through ice for the same reason. As for the airport it's technically Alaska DOT, which isn't considered public, so you should ask permission for any use of the land, but except for the restricted areas where they've posted signage they don't seem to care cause there's people trapping on that land, but the area is only like two or three square miles in total and doesn't have beavers afaik. If someone causes problems they might crack down on it, but for now local DOT either is turning a blind eye or doesn't care.
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