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Re: So how can this not work [Re: Wolfdog91] #8360223 03/08/25 10:15 AM 03/08/25 10:15 AM
Joined: Feb 2020 MT S Slick Pan trapper
Slick Pan trapper S Joined: Feb 2020 MT	This is a problem. I can see mad cow disease happening. Once you get a cow mad its hard to cure it.

Re: So how can this not work [Re: Wolfdog91] #8360233 03/08/25 10:39 AM 03/08/25 10:39 AM
Joined: Dec 2009 The Hill Country of Texas Leftlane "HOSS"
Leftlane "HOSS" Joined: Dec 2009 The Hill Country of Texas	I'm with Osagan elevate the tank. I also agree with the bigger storage capacity guys and Bryce in regards to protecting it. Cattle like to rub and scratch on anything you build. When I first got divorced I lived in a bunkhouse that was fed water off of the covered arena. All the stalls and stock tanks were fed from it too as it had about 6000 sf of roof. What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded. Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers

Re: So how can this not work [Re: Wolfdog91] #8360358 03/08/25 02:18 PM 03/08/25 02:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 South Central Kansas goodlife trapper
goodlife trapper Joined: Feb 2010 South Central Kansas	This is the first one. The top is open. With no trees around, didn't worry about leaves.

Re: So how can this not work [Re: Wolfdog91] #8360359 03/08/25 02:20 PM 03/08/25 02:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 St. Louis Co, Mo B BigBob trapper
BigBob trapper B Joined: Dec 2006 St. Louis Co, Mo	Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 So what are the problems with this ? IMHO: Nice idea. I agree with the gutter screen idea. You would need to raise the barrel so the outlet is level with the desired tank level and add a 2nd, 1 IBC tank is double the capacity of 2 barrels. Raise the fill level inlet as high as you can to maximize volume. Maybe put some minnows in the tank for fishing, and mosquito control. Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon. Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor. Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!

Re: So how can this not work [Re: Wolfdog91] #8360362 03/08/25 02:25 PM 03/08/25 02:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 South Central Kansas goodlife trapper
goodlife trapper Joined: Feb 2010 South Central Kansas	Have to drain the tank when the temp goes below 10. Hydrants run in front of the barn.

Re: So how can this not work [Re: Wolfdog91] #8360373 03/08/25 02:40 PM 03/08/25 02:40 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 South Central Kansas goodlife trapper
goodlife trapper Joined: Feb 2010 South Central Kansas	Sump pump in bottom connected to switch above hydrant. PEX piping to each individual stall with shutoff valve to control.

Re: So how can this not work [Re: Wolfdog91] #8360380 03/08/25 02:50 PM 03/08/25 02:50 PM
Joined: Mar 2018 Missouri H HayDay trapper
HayDay trapper H Joined: Mar 2018 Missouri	When I was kicking this idea around for use in a home..........in addition to the leaves, it occurred to me that gutters would also carry dust off the roof and gutter. So I thought it might help to use a sediment trap in the downspout. A foot or so below the gutter, put in a big T fitting. In the straight line below the T, start putting in a series of reducers, so final drain would be 3/4 inch or so. First flush off the roof and out the gutter with dust would flow down into the sediment trap. But necked down like that, would quickly back up to the T, then take alternate, wide open big pipe down to the storage tank. The sediment trap would be self flushing. Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.

Re: So how can this not work [Re: HayDay] #8360410 03/08/25 04:12 PM 03/08/25 04:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2019 ontario, canada O old243 trapper
old243 trapper O Joined: Feb 2019 ontario, canada	There are a lot of video;s on water storage , off roofs . On off grid and cottage forums .With drawings. Also depends how low your temps get. Frozen water bowls are common. old243

Re: So how can this not work [Re: HayDay] #8360430 03/08/25 05:10 PM 03/08/25 05:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Georgia warrior trapper
warrior trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Georgia	Originally Posted by HayDay As previously noted, as shown, only part of the water in the barrel would flow to the tank. Once the water levels are equal, valve would stay open and water levels in barrel and tank would drop to level of the connecting pipe, then livestock would drain the tank dry. So bigger tank and connector lower.....maybe underground. General concept is not new. Many farm houses had a cistern.....a big underground tank......that was used to catch rain water off roofs. Many of those even used for drinking water. Pulled up by a hand pump. Used in place of, or in addition to, a dug well. Have thought the concept could also be used in all homes, catching rain water to be used for flushing toilets, watering plants, gardens and such. Tank would have to be big and tall, but concept is doable. I've toured a few antebellum big houses that had such systems. One memorable one is the Jemison House in Tuscaloosa that was barely completed before the war broke out. It had indoor running water for flushing toilets and bath tub. Roof catch to in ground cistern. Servant powered hand pump to in attic tank for indoor plumbing. State of the art for the time.

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