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Otter tails #8361719
03/10/25 06:11 PM
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I notice most otters I see at the sales out west have tails that are stretched fairly narrow, and/or stretched with just a few nails as if it's not an important part of the pelt. Wanted to show you how I stretch the tails and why.

One of the main markets for otter pelts in the west is the pow wow trade where they're being used for hair ties. They cut the pelts into 1.5 inch (aprox) strips and charge by the linear inch. Longer strips are desired. Therefor, with a wide tail they can get at least 2 or 3 longer strips off that pelt. One of our main buyers has stated that tails (as I do them) are worth at least $15 more than narrow stretched ones. Often times he doesn't even bid on the narrow tail ones.

My otters are almost always the high bid otters on a sale or tied for high bid.

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Nailing it out. Notice I pull the ankle notch over as far as I can to the edge of the board.

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And the finished product ready to dry.


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361720
03/10/25 06:13 PM
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Should have mentioned that pleating the tails that was once a fad is definitely not wanted. Long and wide.


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361721
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that is correct from what i have heard they will dock you for having tails on otter not stretched properly

Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361723
03/10/25 06:18 PM
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We as trappers should always pay attention to the wants of the current market. Just like the Nevada stretch for bobcats is now the norm.


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361738
03/10/25 06:37 PM
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Good stuff, as always BP.

Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361756
03/10/25 07:10 PM
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I had 5 in GF. My tails are similar to BP. We will see how they did again this year.


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361760
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nice thanks

Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361761
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I agree - pleated tails is a big no-no. Not only do they look ugly but they have a tendency to develop slip spots in the dressing process.

In today’s market, a dressed otter without a good tail is like……….


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361763
03/10/25 07:19 PM
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Just what is considered the Nevada stretch

Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361784
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I’ll add one to BPs beauty.

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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361788
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Can’t rotate sorry


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361807
03/10/25 08:03 PM
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That's the stuff mud. Pretty otter! Our buyer likes the darker furred ones so I think you'll do good with yours, as usual.


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Re: Otter tails [Re: Deuce2] #8361813
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Originally Posted by Deuce2
Just what is considered the Nevada stretch


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Mainly it's leaving the front legs on the pelt all the way to the paw and slipping coat hangers in there for drying them. It shows off the beautiful dark bands on the underside of those front legs.


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361819
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Ok , thanks, lol been doing that for years

Re: Otter tails [Re: Deuce2] #8361829
03/10/25 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuce2
Ok , thanks, lol been doing that for years


I think most do now, especially in the western states. But it wasn't always that way.


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361840
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One does not realize how much goes into prep for a " pow-wow " regalia and what is required. From red squirrels to weasels to porky hair. Each tribe has unique things so just pay attention.
There is a-lot of money burning a hole is some ones pocket

Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361919
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I notice most otters I see at the sales out west have tails that are stretched fairly narrow, and/or stretched with just a few nails as if it's not an important part of the pelt. Wanted to show you how I stretch the tails and why.

One of the main markets for otter pelts in the west is the pow wow trade where they're being used for hair ties. They cut the pelts into 1.5 inch (aprox) strips and charge by the linear inch. Longer strips are desired. Therefor, with a wide tail they can get at least 2 or 3 longer strips off that pelt. One of our main buyers has stated that tails (as I do them) are worth at least $15 more than narrow stretched ones. Often times he doesn't even bid on the narrow tail ones.

My otters are almost always the high bid otters on a sale or tied for high bid.

[Linked Image]
Nailing it out. Notice I pull the ankle notch over as far as I can to the edge of the board.

[Linked Image]
And the finished product ready to dry.


Great job Carl, good composition, and you prove the old adage, a picture is worth a thousand words! You probably made the folks that are paying attention good money!

Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361930
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Got any belly pics of those otter? I've tried stretching the tail base wide, but hated the way the belly looked.


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361954
03/10/25 10:26 PM
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[Linked Image]

The buyer I am referring to here does not desire a large belly cut-out.


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Re: Otter tails [Re: beaverpeeler] #8361970
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Great post. I used to pleat, had a guy that worked at NAFA tell me a funny story once. Said a Chinese buyer picked up an otter at a sale, flipped it over quickly and the tail caught him just right in the face. Said the otter was thrown back down and the buyer was upset lol. After that , he started pleating the tails. Great fur handler too, I learned a lot from him.

I got the itch to do some water trapping this spring, my daughter and I set out a line for rats and otter. Hadn’t trapped them real hard in a few years, and it was obvious. Didn’t take me long at all to reach 10 ( our limit in MD). I skinned and froze them all, with plans on shipping them to the tannery, but now I’m debating on putting half of them up to sell. Always enjoy otter trapping, and the fur handling as well. A lot of work but they’re beautiful on a board. Great put up peeler and mud.

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