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Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers #8362647
03/12/25 01:13 AM
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For those of you who trap beaver in the wolf range of MN. What are you seeing as far as beaver populations over the years? I'm hearing that the wolves are gobbling them up since running out of deer. I "heard" of one fella that says he used to have to work hard to keep the beaver under control in his area but now the beaver are about gone there. Of course, the recent interest in beaver fur could have contributed to this to "some" degree...maybe?

I did walk some areas up there this past fall where beaver ponds that had beaver in them for decades were now dry and void of any beaver activity.

What are you guys seeing?

Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362648
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I don't know about Minnesota, but in SE Alaska the wolves are very hard on the beaver, especially in declining habitat where the beaver have to get away from the waters edge in order to cut feed.


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Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362660
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Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362697
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I will say that the wolves seem to have developed a taste for Turkey around my place this winter.


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Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362707
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I’m pretty sure they did a number on them last year. In SE Mb.


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Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362713
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Skilled Beaver trappers took far more Beaver than wolves in a much shorter period of time !


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Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362805
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The beaver population should improve when they start releasing elk in the northeastern areas of MN. Elk should be easier for wolves to catch.


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Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362813
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The Beaver in the Bemidji Area are down but it is a combination of factors. They've been trapped pretty hard the last couple years, spring and fall. Water levels are down and many isolated ponds have dried up. Those beaver are very vulnerable to wolves when they vacate dry ponds. And wolf numbers are high so normal predation is taking a toll as well. We'll see how much of a push we get here once things get moving this spring but right now the snow melt is pretty much gone and will need some percipitation to get some water, and young beaver, moving.

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Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: 2poor] #8362817
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Originally Posted by 2poor
Skilled Beaver trappers took far more Beaver than wolves in a much shorter period of time !



I think this "used to be" the case. I'm wondering if this still holds true today from what guys are actually seeing . Especially in the thick of wolf country where there are far more hungry wolves than hungry trappers today. Do 4,000 (or whatever we believe the numbers are) wolves (who hunt daily) take more beaver than a handful of aging trappers do, who trap when they feel like it?
Most beaver trappers are aging and slowing down, let alone there's not much financial incentive to it anymore. Especially if they cant drive up to the site. Wolves on the other hand, are low on availability of food supplies nowadays. It "seems" like the wolves have figured out how to hunt and kill beaver more effectively nowadays out of pure necessity to survive.

Just wondering what guys are really seeing out there. I know of one (north of Grand Marais) beaver trapper that seeing a big shift since the deer populations have tanked.

That Elk releasing might be an interesting one to watch Trapper7. I wonder how many are going to come down with a (reported) mysterious illness when they get gobbled up.

Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: 160user] #8362820
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Originally Posted by 160user
I will say that the wolves seem to have developed a taste for Turkey around my place this winter.

Thats not a bad thing


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Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362890
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I find it hard to believe that wolves eat any more beaver now than ever? I would think it's 100% based on case by case opportunity.

Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: The Finlander] #8362897
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Originally Posted by The Finlander
I find it hard to believe that wolves eat any more beaver now than ever? I would think it's 100% based on case by case opportunity.


I agree. That said, I think they will eat more beaver when the deer are rock bottom levels like many areas in the “true northern” areas of the state. I think the idea of wolves eating beavers has just been made “public knowledge” with the wolf study in voyageurs. It’s been going on as long as we’ve had beaver and wolves but like many things varies. They’re smart and opportunistic, go figure!?! I think I have single handedly helped maximize wolf litter survival the years I’ve caught a good number of beaver and put the carcasses out for them! lol. Happy trapping! ScottW

Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362899
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I my area I don't think the wolves are hard on them. The last 3 years with the market up on them everyone and there brother were trapping them. I run into more trappers the last few years than the prior years.

Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8362958
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so i know bar and wolves will travel creeks looking for tasty meals like a beaver in a trap. Coyotes will do the same so i try to put my beaver on longer wire to get them deep a good sign that wolves or coyotes are actively targeting beaver is you should see bite marks in the occasional beaver also raccoons will in general have shorter tails and bite marks too

Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: ScottW] #8362968
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Originally Posted by ScottW
Originally Posted by The Finlander
I find it hard to believe that wolves eat any more beaver now than ever? I would think it's 100% based on case by case opportunity.


I agree. That said, I think they will eat more beaver when the deer are rock bottom levels like many areas in the “true northern” areas of the state. I think the idea of wolves eating beavers has just been made “public knowledge” with the wolf study in voyageurs. It’s been going on as long as we’ve had beaver and wolves but like many things varies. They’re smart and opportunistic, go figure!?! I think I have single handedly helped maximize wolf litter survival the years I’ve caught a good number of beaver and put the carcasses out for them! lol. Happy trapping! ScottW



Yes, you'd have thought they found the missing link when they "discovered" that wolves eat fish during spawning runs. Why wouldn't they?

Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Noel] #8362972
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Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: Calvin] #8363020
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Wolves are adaptive, they find ways to survive on a new food source when traditional ones dry up. There was an interesting study done in SE on an island where the wolves have almost or completely eradicated the deer population, so the wolves started hunting sea otters. Not a one time opportunistic type of thing, but actually adjusted their diet and hunting methods to effectively eat sea otters

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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
Wolves are adaptive, they find ways to survive on a new food source when traditional ones dry up. There was an interesting study done in SE on an island where the wolves have almost or completely eradicated the deer population, so the wolves started hunting sea otters. Not a one time opportunistic type of thing, but actually adjusted their diet and hunting methods to effectively eat sea otters


Good info.

This is a "suspicion" of what may be happening here, in some areas. My buddy has a trail cam in the midst of wolf territory here. Once with many deer, He hasn't seen a deer on his camera the entire last year. The beaver ponds in that specific area have dried up. It's also a gated Co-op community. The local beaver trapper stated he hasn't trapped any. Have the wolves become that effective?

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Just where is the wolf range in Mn, if I may ask.

Re: Wolf Range, MN beaver trappers [Re: trapdog1] #8363139
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Just where is the wolf range in Mn, if I may ask.

Pretty much the whole state.

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