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Getting k9's rolling #8360587
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What smells do you find that makes fox and coyotes roll consistently. Thank you Mike

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8360595
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Should have asked if you wanted to get one rolling, what sent would you use. Thank you Mike

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8360600
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why would you want them to roll

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8360601
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Tainted fish.

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: k9-hunter] #8360625
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Just curious. Been in an area last season behind a few other trappers. They got wise. Was thinking that if I could get them rolling, I could catch them when they went to urinate

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Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8360716
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Beaver tail oil

Horse hoof liquid


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Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8360720
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Thank you all, Mike

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8360728
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Originally Posted by Mmueller
Just curious. Been in an area last season behind a few other trappers. They got wise. Was thinking that if I could get them rolling, I could catch them when they went to urinate

Putting your lure 18-20 inches off of the ground is a better option than catching front shoulder fur and educating them even more
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Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8360740
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Tainted rodent odor. Soured mice/moles.

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8360846
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You don’t want them to roll. You’ll just get a ton of fired traps. Most at that point blame the trap and call it a “pull out”.

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8360889
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Most guys would be surprised how many smells will (eventually) illicit a rolling response.

You just don’t realize it as you have them caught before they get to that point.

The rolling response always fascinates me.

Take a dog for example, I can run a dog past half a dozen ooey gooey melting down cows and get nothing. But for whatever reason, that seventh one theyll want to wear.

Or cow crap. Run around it all day, but than find that one that they just have to have on them.

Is it a specific smell there?

Or is it just a specific mood?

It’s probably some of both, but I think mood in the moment has quite a bit to do with it.

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Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Sharkhunter] #8360893
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I don't plan on setting traps on what they are rolling in. I just want to get them primed up for a unine post. I'm just talking about canines that are hole and lure shy. I'm coming in to clean up what a whole handful of people have educated. I have never mastered snaring. Just trying to think outside the box. Thank you all for the replies, Mike

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8360896
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Natural baits and subtle sets or plain old blind trail sets are what I go to for those situations.




One thing most canines can’t seem to resist rolling on is a piece of dried up hide that still has that earthy, musty, decomposing smell on it.

Something that was probably pretty gross a month ago, but has by and large dried out.

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8362305
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Listen to Boone, but to answer your question, beaver tail oil or some nasty, mostly liquified meat. I have put deer and elk scraps or bear scraps in a bucket or glass jar before and poured just enough water over it to cover and let set for a year. Make sure and vent your container, and don't fill it over 2/3s for deer and elk or halfway for bear (I don't know why, but I found out the hard way bear expands more than deer and elk) to allow for expansion. When you open that container you will have a pourable stink bait that is LOUD!

Also, most commercial "rub lures" will elicit a rolling response if placed on the ground. Although a lot of them are designed for cats and have enough skunk essence in them to cause wary canines to shy away.

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8365227
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Most good commercial k9 baits and lures illicit a rolling response it’s just that we put them down deep in a dirt hole where they can’t roll on them. Given the chance ( no trap ) they will often times dig them up and roll on them. People think that baits or lures that cause a rolling response aren’t good lures but it’s actually the opposite. You just have to put them down the hole where they can’t get to them right away.

Like dogs not all coyotes are rollers. Some want to roll in everything they smell while others not.


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Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: bluegrassman] #8366236
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Originally Posted by bluegrassman
Most good commercial k9 baits and lures illicit a rolling response it’s just that we put them down deep in a dirt hole where they can’t roll on them. Given the chance ( no trap ) they will often times dig them up and roll on them. People think that baits or lures that cause a rolling response aren’t good lures but it’s actually the opposite. You just have to put them down the hole where they can’t get to them right away.

Like dogs not all coyotes are rollers. Some want to roll in everything they smell while others not.

Re: Getting k9's rolling [Re: Mmueller] #8366238
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Thank you all. I read just the thing in one of Mr. Dobbins books. Glad to see my thinking wasn't somewhere off in left field

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