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Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: Tray] #8368072
03/19/25 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tray
Wonder if landowners will be allowed to put up structures to prevent a guy from crossing? I can see some of them trying.


This would be I'll advised. Anything that does not adhere to standing farming practices is opening yourself up to massive lawsuit should someone be injured performing a legal activity. First one to fall into razor wire trying to cross a 10' fence is going to own a ranch.

Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: k snow] #8368089
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All it would take is a large tree planted in the corner and it would be difficult to get around legally. Or pen a mean bull up in the corner. Lots of money involved some will fight this with everything they have.

Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: Preacherman Les] #8368090
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Originally Posted by Preacherman Les
Originally Posted by gcs
So no, lol


Correct. This ruling as far as I can tell ONLY applies to corner crossing. This is a very specific ruling. It does not apply to ordinary crossing of private land to reach public. You still have to pay to do that. Oops, I mean "have permission."

Some States recognize section lines as right-of-ways, so to some degree it will depend on the State.


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Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: Tray] #8368096
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Originally Posted by Tray
All it would take is a large tree planted in the corner and it would be difficult to get around legally. Or pen a mean bull up in the corner. Lots of money involved some will fight this with everything they have.


The mean bull in the corner is exactly what I'm talking about. Would you risk the ranch on a jury agreeing that penning up a mean bull in a remote section corner is standard farming practice? There's to much at stake for most people to risk the ranch on playing stupid games, I'm sure a few people will be willing to gamble the ranch to keep people off public land but there's idiots in every group.

Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8368103
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Tray
All it would take is a large tree planted in the corner and it would be difficult to get around legally. Or pen a mean bull up in the corner. Lots of money involved some will fight this with everything they have.


The mean bull in the corner is exactly what I'm talking about. Would you risk the ranch on a jury agreeing that penning up a mean bull in a remote section corner is standard farming practice? There's to much at stake for most people to risk the ranch on playing stupid games, I'm sure a few people will be willing to gamble the ranch to keep people off public land but there's idiots in every group.


Not all these spots are remote, many are in populated areas or easily accessed from existing public access roads or water. The corner crossing will just allow more ground to open up from ground that was already easily accessible.

Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: k snow] #8368114
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Alaska has easment laws to give you access if there's no other way to access land. And we have plenty of waterways you can use for access as well, since you can't own the water in a waterway in alaska it's open for boats.

Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: k snow] #8368143
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Now if an A H landowner puts up an illegal blockade how long would it take law personnel to get out there and do anything about it?


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Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: Gary Benson] #8368148
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Now if an A H landowner puts up an illegal blockade how long would it take law personnel to get out there and do anything about it?


Depends on if they like the landowner or not. Or the person calling them.

Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: k snow] #8368150
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I wouldn't be holding my breath....

Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: Tray] #8368161
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Originally Posted by Tray
Wonder if landowners will be allowed to put up structures to prevent a guy from crossing? I can see some of them trying.


If they did and it was torn down, I can't see landowners winning in court. In Idaho, if you are floating or walking down navigable waters with private land on each side and there is a barricade across the waterway, you are allowed to go onto private land to get around it


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Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: k snow] #8368181
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I know kansas is trying to make it if an out of stater owns land here, they still have to enter the draw for deer. Part of me likes it, part of me dont.

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Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: k snow] #8368211
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I don't see alot of people doing a corner cross because you will still have to walk around alot of ground. It might make some tags harder to get if it is a good area. It will chap some rich boys butts tho!

You can camp on BLM land but some of the land is not the best ground for doing that and would have to corner cross with all your stuff.

If you get lucky and kill a animal back over the corner you go, not for me!

Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: k snow] #8368221
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Awesome news.


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Re: Corner crossing court decision [Re: k snow] #8368653
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I knew these hunters would eventually win this.

I will try to explain why using the sketches below.

Suppose you own an entire section, you decide to sell a 40 acre parcel, in this case the SW 1/4 of the NE 1/4.
You think you are pulling a fast one on the buyer because you don't intend to allow him to cross your land that lays between the public road and his 40 acres.
Legally you are implying that he has the right to access and enjoy his 40 acres, there are different terms for this, one is "implied easement". He may have to take you to court, but you will lose.

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In the next example we'll use an entire township of 36 sections (each section being 640 acres).
In the western US when railroads were originally built, the government, as incentive, granted the railroads title to every other section a certain number of miles outward on each side of the tracks. The government did not intend to land-lock them selves out of their own lands in this checkerboard arrangement. The government still had an implied easement to access these public lands, similar to my first example where the private land owner (seller) implies -whether he knows it or not- to the buyer that he has access to his property.
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