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[Re: 330-Trapper]
 #8375075 03/28/25 10:10 PM
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Come to Maine.There are a ton of insects.He's from MaineWe already covered this. |  |  |  
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|  Re: No more insects
[Re: NaturesTonic]
 #8375113 03/29/25 04:28 AM
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Wasn’t really asking if you believed if they were real or not just assumed by now everyone knew what was up. As of today 31 states passed bills to ban them, problem with that is the altitude and that area the  feds regulate it. JFK jr this week mentioned on one of his replies in X that he’s going to try and stop it which is what’s needed. I mean the govt just release a report about with the faa, noaa and nasa being the lead funders and researchers
 If you don’t think they’re real you must not spend great lengths of time outside or be an observant person.  All the haters and mashers must be double vaxxed and boosted 😂  I expected more out of outdoorsmen but maybe that’s not the right term for the blind ones here
I'm outside more than most. Work/pleasure are outside. Insects are definitely not declining where I live. I'm a very observant person thank you. Maybe you live closer to a city/airport/flyway. Is that a picture you took in the original post of a picture of you flying? I hope not or YOU are part of the problem you're talking about. I personally haven't flown in at least 25 years and have no plans to ever do so.   I also spent my whole life farming grapes. Airplanes don't spray grapes in case your wondering.  I'm not a hater or a masher and definitely am not double vaxxed. I'm also not blind to my surroundings. I'm also not on X.   I can see how pollution bothers you and it's effects on everything in our environment. Pollution of any kind is not good I agree. Do your part and don't fly. Also don't eat anything that was possibly sprayed by a plane with pesticides.  Just don't stand on your soap box and call people that respond "unobservant haters"  because they live in an area that doesn't have the same problems as you.  Have a nice day
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|  Re: No more insects
[Re: NaturesTonic]
 #8375117 03/29/25 04:48 AM
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This has nothing to do with regular commercial flights or spraying pesticides, slow down and re read.
 This also isn’t something just happening in every state usa, it’s also all over Europe, Australia, CR and other countries too.
 
 Aluminum, barium, silver dioxide is mostly the cocktail in the sprays that persist and don’t fade away, rather the streak in the sky will billow out, usually over a two hour period and block the sun.
 
 Some companies also spray and cloud seed to control when and where rain falls. So they spray to cause droughts or to accelerate a rainstorm over one area. Most big ag pays these guys, in winter in the mountains pilots are paid to create more snow over resorts and so on. This is all public info via noaa.
 The sad part about controlling when/where rain happens is that they are effectively stealing the natural resources from area to use somewhere else, the rain is zero sum. Senator from florida eloquently put this at his last hearing about banning this.
 
 Heres a better side by side this week, since a picture from an airplane window seems to confuse.  On left is typical sun blockage after the chemtrail streaks disperse in the sky.
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|  Re: No more insects
[Re: NaturesTonic]
 #8375142 03/29/25 06:45 AM
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 . Ive read one of the theories is because of the lack of insects for the poults to eat because of pesticides.  thats what i think. been saying it for years. been a long time since dozens of bats flew around my streetlight or the yard was full of lightning bugs 
 Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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|  Re: No more insects
[Re: 330-Trapper]
 #8375175 03/29/25 07:50 AM
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Come to Maine.There are a ton of insects.He's from MaineSouthern Maine I see now   
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|  Re: No more insects
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
 #8375205 03/29/25 08:44 AM
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I remember when the power lines were heavy with swallows, thousands of birds and thousands more short distances later. I can now travel 100 miles of rural road and count swallows at 55mph as there's so few. Insects and birds are both taking a beatingMy dad is a grain farmer. He granted permission to the university of Saskatchewan to do studies over a couple of years regarding insects and swallows on his property , specifically barn swallows. I read a very nice detailed report they gave him and it was alarming to say the least. I don’t recall the name of the exact chemical (poison) that was discussed as being found in every water sample, the blood of every mosquito and the blood of something like 80% of the swallows. I’m just going to throw out a random hypothesis and say I bet the same story could be told in Minnesota. 
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|  Re: No more insects
[Re: rvsask]
 #8375208 03/29/25 08:51 AM
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I remember when the power lines were heavy with swallows, thousands of birds and thousands more short distances later. I can now travel 100 miles of rural road and count swallows at 55mph as there's so few. Insects and birds are both taking a beatingMy dad is a grain farmer. He granted permission to the university of Saskatchewan to do studies over a couple of years regarding insects and swallows on his property , specifically barn swallows. I read a very nice detailed report they gave him and it was alarming to say the least. I don’t recall the name of the exact chemical (poison) that was discussed as being found in every water sample, the blood of every mosquito and the blood of something like 80% of the swallows. I’m just going to throw out a random hypothesis and say I bet the same story could be told in Minnesota. Or probably anywhere else in North America. |  |  |  
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|  Re: No more insects
[Re: 330-Trapper]
 #8375233 03/29/25 09:21 AM
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Barn swallows  are here ever year , pooping  on my lumber.
 Bats die off, Swollows would have more food.
 
 I vote For Swallows.
 
 
I don't think bats vs, barn swallows is the point here..... But then again, maybe it is......
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|  Re: No more insects
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Barn swallows  are here ever year , pooping  on my lumber.
 Bats die off, Swollows would have more food.
 
 I vote For Swallows.
 
 
I don't think bats vs, barn swallows is the point here..... But then again, maybe it is...... Who knows anymore...No matter what youAlls  rebuttal is the OP says we can't read. 
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|  Re: No more insects
[Re: rvsask]
 #8375244 03/29/25 09:44 AM
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I remember when the power lines were heavy with swallows, thousands of birds and thousands more short distances later. I can now travel 100 miles of rural road and count swallows at 55mph as there's so few. Insects and birds are both taking a beatingMy dad is a grain farmer. He granted permission to the university of Saskatchewan to do studies over a couple of years regarding insects and swallows on his property , specifically barn swallows. I read a very nice detailed report they gave him and it was alarming to say the least. I don’t recall the name of the exact chemical (poison) that was discussed as being found in every water sample, the blood of every mosquito and the blood of something like 80% of the swallows. I’m just going to throw out a random hypothesis and say I bet the same story could be told in Minnesota. Thank you,  I found the study. I'm reading it in my spare minutes. It kind of confirms my personal observations and fears. Red Winged Black Bird populations have also collapsed locally, with pesticides leeching into the water that makes sense as to why these wetland bird populations are being decimated locally. |  |  |  
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|  Re: No more insects
[Re: rvsask]
 #8375254 03/29/25 10:01 AM
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I remember when the power lines were heavy with swallows, thousands of birds and thousands more short distances later. I can now travel 100 miles of rural road and count swallows at 55mph as there's so few. Insects and birds are both taking a beatingMy dad is a grain farmer. He granted permission to the university of Saskatchewan to do studies over a couple of years regarding insects and swallows on his property , specifically barn swallows. I read a very nice detailed report they gave him and it was alarming to say the least. I don’t recall the name of the exact chemical (poison) that was discussed as being found in every water sample, the blood of every mosquito and the blood of something like 80% of the swallows. I’m just going to throw out a random hypothesis and say I bet the same story could be told in Minnesota. Neonicotinoids..... it is used in coating the canola seed for flea beetle prevention. We had a barn that had 50 years of swallow droppings and took samples for her, in the last 15 years of use you could see the insecticide come in the droppings. Every fall close to 2000 birds roost in that barn that is close to lake Winnipeg marshes. |  |  |  
 
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