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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8371298
03/24/25 06:53 AM
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You don’t see coyote beds very often. Here are two side by side.
Most folks usually associate these areas with thick cover.
I believe weather conditions and time of day/night have a lot to do with where they end up.

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If you pay close attention you can tell which way they were facing.
In this case the coyotes were facing the photographer. They bedded with the wind at their back.

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Right Bed

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Left Bed

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8371321
03/24/25 07:37 AM
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Anything they were watching?

Or just a good place to soak up some sun and rest?

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8372343
03/25/25 02:42 PM
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BT I am pretty sure they were just taking a siesta after dinner.

These beds in the open are not daytime beds for the most part.
They are used mainly in the late night and early morning hours before daylight.

The daytime sun is way too intense to stay in the open.
As temps rise in the early morning hours they will seek shade and lower temps often times along the creek.

It's interesting that they bed with their back to the wind so they can smell where they can’t see and see where they can’t smell.

Wile E. has this figured out pretty good.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8372353
03/25/25 02:53 PM
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Here is another example.

Once again the bed is right along a main trail.

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8373553
03/26/25 08:32 PM
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Nice post. I'm envious of your tracking conditions. Can't read sign like that around here unless you have fresh snow.


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8374590
03/28/25 05:11 AM
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Deer bed that direction also.
Dare I say "always"?

You have sand, we get snow to "tell".

We have hills that cause thermal currents (air movement)
that can show beds not aligned as I said above.

Always?? Almost.





Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8374711
03/28/25 09:37 AM
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Guess I've not noticed what direction coyotes bed in these parts but I'd expect them to bed the same as the deer so not surprised.

I'd say that it would be abnormal for a deer here to bed in a manner that doesnt allow them some vision downwind. But I'll add a twist---in a group of multiple deer it would also be very strange for the group to consistently bed facing downwind. There are almost always some with eyes covering the approaching angles and just as often one is facing upwind to cover the back door in case the sniffer fails. Wonder if family of coyotes does similar?

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8375213
03/29/25 08:57 AM
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Here is one last example.

Once again the bed is right next to a predominately used coyote trail.

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They also seem to prefer bedding down next to a backing or cover of some sort.

In this case the coyote nestled up to a large clump of grass.

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8375295
03/29/25 10:57 AM
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Used to run red fox with dogs. Middle of winter an opening in woods or brush, with a south facing slope were real good for jumping fox. They sun themselves in spots like that. How they bed down specifically I don't recolect. Learned a lot about fox running them with dogs. They do a lot of things that don't jive with trapping books.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8376653
03/31/25 11:22 AM
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Show a coyote what he expects to see and you are way ahead of the game.

Most of the time what he shows you is what works best.


Here is a prime example left by Wile E. at an old bone yard.

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You constantly see this kind of marking in these areas.
Notice the repeat visits made to this one hide.
I mimic this look only where these items are found.
I’ve used this setup for a long time. It produces well in this type of situation.

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Place poop from another area on the downwind edge of the hide and add a shot of urine to the lip of the cape just behind the scat.
I do not move these scraps from their original location.
Crowd the added attractants for all they are worth with no offset.

This set will snag some of those coyotes that tend to shy away from other visuals.



Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8376750
03/31/25 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TEJAS


Originally Posted by Wanna Be
What about cats? Do you ever catch those or target those?

As for the cats, the ranch owners want them left alone. I release all that I catch.

I don’t target them but there are times where they sure seem to target my sets.

Over the years I have become pretty efficient at avoiding them.

You can bet if I start using a lot of coyote gland and urine I will start seeing spots.


Out of curiosity, what are you doing to avoid the cats?

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8377571
04/01/25 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hendricks
Out of curiosity, what are you doing to avoid the cats?


I steer clear of cat hangouts along with sets and smells they like.

It has worked well so far.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8379687
04/04/25 08:30 AM
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Day in and day out the most basic attractants consistently produce the most coyotes around here.

Once again I showed the coyote a smell they expected to find at this location.

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This coyote did a lot of side digging with her left front.

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I've noticed when a coyote really commits they will usually stick with the same angle of approach as they work the set.

There was not a single track on the dirt backing.

From this angle you can tell she did most of the excavation with her left.

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8381989
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How many of you coyote trappers use a dog on the line?

If so, how do you actually put them to work?



It would sure be interesting to hear and see how the Coyote Killers utilize their own K-9’s to snag more coyotes.

I was hoping the T-Man Coyote Crew might be able to teach a couple of old dogs a few new tricks.


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8382770
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Here's the 2 that ride with me. They can find coyotes on drags but drags are rarely used in my open country.

Best way to utilize them is to let them out while your setting traps. I think that it puts coyotes on the offense/defense and will play games with their minds to where they will commit to a set more easily. I read once that by having a dog on the line it will increase your catch by 10%. By observation I feel it may be a little higher than that.

They will also find scat that I sometimes miss. I hear some say that their environment doesn't allow for seeing much sign. Here's a tip if you want to see if coyotes are running a 2 track. Let your dog out to run that 2 track for a little distance. Come back 2-3 days later and if coyotes are using that trail or track you will see coyote scat. The smell of other dogs causes them to start marking the area.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #8382826
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Our deer I see usually bed with several deer in a group or a basic 2-3 year family unit that still hangs together. I see this many times from the back of our facility which has a window at our packing table where I spend lots of time.

It is fairly thick brush, vines and shrubs. The deer I see face in different directions with the wind at their backs for the most part. Wind is blowing West to East towards the rear of our building.

Like noted previously we have little to no sand here except around slate dumps that have very fine shale deposits where you could read some sign.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #8382845
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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
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Here's the 2 that ride with me. They can find coyotes on drags but drags are rarely used in my open country.

Best way to utilize them is to let them out while your setting traps. I think that it puts coyotes on the offense/defense and will play games with their minds to where they will commit to a set more easily. I read once that by having a dog on the line it will increase your catch by 10%. By observation I feel it may be a little higher than that.

They will also find scat that I sometimes miss. I hear some say that their environment doesn't allow for seeing much sign. Here's a tip if you want to see if coyotes are running a 2 track. Let your dog out to run that 2 track for a little distance. Come back 2-3 days later and if coyotes are using that trail or track you will see coyote scat. The smell of other dogs causes them to start marking the area.


Not only are they good at telling what you can't see but they are good company too.
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