Het Nessie / sourdough guys
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04/06/25 11:49 AM
04/06/25 11:49 AM
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Another question. I've been adding the salt to my flours mix, then adding the starter mixed with warm water to the flour for the initial mixing, I've looked over a bunch of recipes and some do it that way, and some add the salt after the initial mix when they start folding,,, Any thoughts on why, or whats "better"? Seems like every recipe you read has different approaches or techniques, to basically get the same finished product. Just wondering if some folks are over thinking a pretty simple process. My loafs have been coming out good, but maybe could be better?, lol
Any thoughts appreciated.
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Re: Het Nessie / sourdough guys
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04/06/25 12:20 PM
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I add the 2% salt into the flour and mix that up...before adding the water and starter.
What percentage of hydration are you running ???
And are you using rice flour in your Bannetons ?
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: Het Nessie / sourdough guys
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04/06/25 12:52 PM
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Same with the salt, started using a 75% hydration, figured out with your math formula. Do all the mixing, folding and bulk ferment in a large SS bowl Don't have any bannetons , been putting the final shaped dough on a parchment sling dusted with flour into a plastic bowl, covered with a damp towel and put in refrigerator overnite or a little longer before baking in a pre heated dutch oven. Last loaf was a combo of bread flour, whole wheat and dark rye. Best one so far... been putting an upside down sheet pan on the lower rack to prevent the bottom of the bread getting too dark...Works!, lol I've noticed the higher hydration makes a thinner crust, now I can cut it easier...  Been thinking of getting the large dough container from king Arther, but was concerned the diameter was a little tight to get your hands in to mix and fold....
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Re: Het Nessie / sourdough guys
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04/06/25 01:12 PM
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Same with the salt, started using a 75% hydration, figured out with your math formula. Do all the mixing, folding and bulk ferment in a large SS bowl Don't have any bannetons , been putting the final shaped dough on a parchment sling dusted with flour into a plastic bowl, covered with a damp towel and put in refrigerator overnite or a little longer before baking in a pre heated dutch oven. Last loaf was a combo of bread flour, whole wheat and dark rye. Best one so far... been putting an upside down sheet pan on the lower rack to prevent the bottom of the bread getting too dark...Works!, lol I've noticed the higher hydration makes a thinner crust, now I can cut it easier...  Been thinking of getting the large dough container from king Arther, but was concerned the diameter was a little tight to get your hands in to mix and fold.... Those buckets are plenty big to fold the dough in. I put 1500g of flour ..plus the water..plus the staahter...and it only comes up to the #2 mark. And up to just the #4 mark when it doubles in size. There's enough to bake 2 big boules
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Re: Het Nessie / sourdough guys
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04/06/25 08:44 PM
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Another question. I've looked over a bunch of recipes and some do it that way, and some add the salt after the initial mix when they start folding,,, Any thoughts on why, or whats "better"? Seems like every recipe you read has different approaches or techniques, to basically get the same finished product. Just wondering if some folks are over thinking a pretty simple process. My loafs have been coming out good, but maybe could be better?, lol
Any thoughts appreciated. If you check out some of the Facebook pages dedicated to sour dough. You will find many experts spewing info and strict rules, saying that you have to do everything a specific way or else it will fail. Then you read the next page or post that has a bunch of info stating something different. But remember that the settlers drug it with them across the prairie in the back of a wagon or less. If they can do that you can do it by tweaking a few things here and there. Do what works best for you.
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Re: Het Nessie / sourdough guys
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04/07/25 09:39 AM
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I will respond but have NO solid scientific method etc. I do like it like you OP by mixing it in from the start with all ingredients in the bowl. I do nothing exact in measurements of ingrediencies, close but not exact and I couldn't be more pleased with the final product. I am not advocating to do it my style, but I can tell you, I know one person that follows the exact weights and his isn't a better final product then mine. Not worse or bettah. Just my 2¢.
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Re: Het Nessie / sourdough guys
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04/07/25 02:43 PM
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I've been pulling my bread out of the cast iron dutch ...at the 20
Minute mark...and set it on the rack in the oven...for the next 20-25 minutes
To get a nice golden color all the way around.
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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