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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383248
04/08/25 09:55 PM
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If 19-20 genes were the only difference between the dire and the grey then they have duplicated 100% the dire. My understanding is they were able to sequence several ancient dire fossils genomes.

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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383261
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Not a lot of difference genetically between us and orangutans.

We are almost identical genetically to chimps.


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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383277
04/08/25 10:04 PM
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According to Scientific American the latest research says we share 94% identical genes with our cousin chimps.


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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383279
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Well there are several on here that I would swear have been genetically spliced with Cromagnons.


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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: CoyoteCowboy] #8383305
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they are playing Jurassic park with mamals

they could work on a better cure to cancer with that money and not a new super predator

I guess at least a regular 308win should take down a Dire wolf[/quote]
I think even just a .243 would be fine, but I'd go with a .270 or .308, just in case.[/quote]

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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: bowhunter27295] #8383314
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Well there are several on here that I would swear have been genetically spliced with Cromagnons.


Cro-magnons were some of the first smarter Homo sapiens resulting from interbreeding with Neanderthals. Homo sapiens without Neanderthal DNA, have statistically much lower IQs. Higher intelligence developed outside of Africa, probably in large part from adaptation to harsher living conditions.

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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383328
04/08/25 11:32 PM
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That neanderthal interbreeding with Homo sapiens sapiens made them smarter, well, I would like to see the supporting science. Larger cranial capacity doesn't necessarily translate to more smarts.


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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383348
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Neanderthals are believed to have had the same average IQ range as modern humans, of 85 to 115, with a mean of 100 compared to the mean average IQ of Sub Saharan Africans, the first Homo sapiens, which is 82.

Larger brain size has a slight correlation to intelligence. Likely the biggest reason for higher intelligence in Neanderthals is genetic selection from living in a harsher environment.

The areas of Africa with Neanderthal genetics have higher average IQs than the Sub Saharan parts of Africa.

I doubt there is a single person on this forum who doesn't have Neanderthal DNA.

Caucasians and Asians all have Neanderthal DNA, with some Asians having a fair amount of Denisovan DNA. Almost all black people in the US have Neanderthal DNA too.

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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383351
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There’s a project planned to repopulate woolly mammoths into northern Siberia. Given the lack of megafauna, scientists suspect that the vegetation is impacting the climate a certain way. The thought is that woolly mammoths’ feeding habits will help to return the Siberian vegetation to a more desirable state.

I wonder if the dire wolves are being raised as a secondary part of the project. Perhaps a control mechanism on mammoth populations?

Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8383359
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Would anybody be open to bringing back recently gone-extinct critters... ie: passenger pigeon?


I was thinking something like that or the dodos that were killed and made extinct directly by humans.


I'm not in favor of any of it. Even in the case of the dodo and Thylacine. I don't agree with any of it. Especially the madness behind it. Those rewilding scientists are mad. I think many of them would rather see current human extermination and give it back to animals.

But since we are on the subject........Why not bring back the native populations of people that were made extinct directly by humans long before we bring any critters back. Again, I am against all of it.


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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383362
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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383489
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You can bet they will be releasing them "into the wild" as soon as they can produce some more

Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383547
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If they can bring back the sloths, horses, mammoths and camels that made up most of the prey base they can make a nice game park. We can put them on Greenland once we acquire it.

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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383552
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Hey look, we did the same things with Conservatives in the 2024 election. They had long since been dead but we took some Reagan DNA and mixed it with a guy that actually had a spine and . . . . Ta Da!!! Conservatives can once again be heard howling. grin

Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383561
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Not just conservatives howling....


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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: beaverpeeler] #8383574
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Would anybody be open to bringing back recently gone-extinct critters... ie: passenger pigeon?

I would love that


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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: beaverpeeler] #8383577
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
If they can bring back the sloths, horses, mammoths and camels that made up most of the prey base they can make a nice game park. We can put them on Greenland once we acquire it.

What an Idea

Or Manitoba grin


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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383585
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What if the Dire Wolf carries a disease that affects wild and domestic canines. Or a bad gene that is passed on to other canines. Just because something is no longer here because of extinction, doesn't necessarily mean that it wouldn't have died off on its own... or that it should be brought back. Maybe the passenger pigeon was the biggest carrier of bird flu... if that's the case, why would we want it back?

Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: someGuyInKansas] #8383591
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I've read a couple of contradicting versions of this work now. One of them states that the complete genome of the dire wolf was never sequenced and that the scientists doing the work on the project chose a certain number of genes to manipulate that had to do with phenotype (what the wolf looked like). No actual dire dna was inserted into the gray wolf ovum, just the instructions rewritten on 19 genes.

That being the case it isn't truly a 100% dire. It's a gray-dire hybrid.

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Re: Dire Wolves cloned (extinct thousands of years) [Re: warrior] #8383598
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Originally Posted by warrior
JMO, but they and all research into it should be destroyedand prohibited.

Covid was just a warning of what can happen when you start playing God with genetics.


I though there was general agreement on Trapperman that COVID was just a flue used by the Chinese and the left to destroy the last trump presidency?

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