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Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS #8385976 04/12/25 10:40 PM 04/12/25 10:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Mt. g smith OP trapper
g smith OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Mt.	Froor rotted out of old log house .I removed about 8 yards of dirt to fix floor . The building was 125 yrs + old . Years ago my Dad said that dirt like that was dead . Is that true, and for how long would it take to be productive ? You can ride a fast horse slow but you can't ride a slow horse fast .

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8385978 04/12/25 10:43 PM 04/12/25 10:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2018 MN D Donnersurvivor trapper
Donnersurvivor trapper D Joined: Jan 2018 MN	Originally Posted by g smith Froor rotted out of old log house .I removed about 8 yards of dirt to fix floor . The building was 125 yrs + old . Years ago my Dad said that dirt like that was dead . Is that true, and for how long would it take to be productive ? Soil is full of life, microbes, bacteria, mycelium. It's likely not "dead" but it may take a few years to balance out. Add a bit of manure to get some bacteria started and it'll likely be "living soil" sooner than later.

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8385991 04/12/25 11:26 PM 04/12/25 11:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Pa W Wright Brothers trapper
Wright Brothers trapper W Joined: Dec 2006 Pa	Metal detector.

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386007 04/13/25 12:15 AM 04/13/25 12:15 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Mt. g smith OP trapper
g smith OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Mt.	I do not understand about the metal detector . You can ride a fast horse slow but you can't ride a slow horse fast .

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386009 04/13/25 12:18 AM 04/13/25 12:18 AM
Joined: May 2009 Champaign County, Ohio. K KeithC trapper
KeithC trapper K Joined: May 2009 Champaign County, Ohio.	Originally Posted by g smith I do not understand about the metal detector . He means use a metal detector to find any coins, jewelry or other metal objects that ended up in the dirt under the cabin floor. Keith

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386015 04/13/25 12:33 AM 04/13/25 12:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2018 Mo T Trapper5123 trapper
Trapper5123 trapper T Joined: Nov 2018 Mo	I found a few old coins under the floor of a log cabin. Nothing spectacular. The only "dead" dirt I've encountered is soil mucked out of a pond.

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386018 04/13/25 12:56 AM 04/13/25 12:56 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Mt. g smith OP trapper
g smith OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Mt.	I am now enlightened ! Thank you You can ride a fast horse slow but you can't ride a slow horse fast .

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386019 04/13/25 12:57 AM 04/13/25 12:57 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Oregon beaverpeeler trapper
beaverpeeler trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Oregon	Microbial life, even weed seed can like dormant for hundreds and thousands of years. The mineral content of the soil should not have changed much (or at all) either. My fear of moving stairs is escalating!

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386021 04/13/25 12:59 AM 04/13/25 12:59 AM
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g smith OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Mt.	Wife and I keep saying we should get a metal detector . You can ride a fast horse slow but you can't ride a slow horse fast .

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386025 04/13/25 01:10 AM 04/13/25 01:10 AM
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FishingHoleFind trapper Joined: Jan 2025 Alaska	Dead dirt is dirt without any microorganisms and bacteria inside it. Mixing it with some living soil can revive it within a year usually, unless whatever killed the soil in still in it. Iirc cutting it 50/50 with living mulch is recommended but you can double check the ratios. It will also go back to living after a couple years just outside.

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: Wright Brothers] #8386185 04/13/25 10:53 AM 04/13/25 10:53 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Killingly, CT Brian Mongeau trapper
Brian Mongeau trapper Joined: Feb 2007 Killingly, CT	Originally Posted by Wright Brothers Metal detector. That was my first thought too. Nice dry dirt for trapping too.

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: FishingHoleFind] #8386187 04/13/25 10:55 AM 04/13/25 10:55 AM
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beaverpeeler trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Oregon	Originally Posted by FishingHoleFind Dead dirt is dirt without any microorganisms and bacteria inside it. Mixing it with some living soil can revive it within a year usually, unless whatever killed the soil in still in it. Iirc cutting it 50/50 with living mulch is recommended but you can double check the ratios. It will also go back to living after a couple years just outside. It will not be devoid of microorganisms. I guarantee that. My fear of moving stairs is escalating!

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386398 04/13/25 07:40 PM 04/13/25 07:40 PM
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Bob_Iowa trapper B Joined: Jan 2019 North central Iowa	If it’s devoid of microorganisms, I’d wonder what nuclear material you’ve been working with.

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386399 04/13/25 07:44 PM 04/13/25 07:44 PM
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trappinia trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 iowa	I bet the button weeds start growing within a month.

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8386432 04/13/25 08:35 PM 04/13/25 08:35 PM
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snowy trapper S Joined: Dec 2011 MT	Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor Originally Posted by g smith Froor rotted out of old log house .I removed about 8 yards of dirt to fix floor . The building was 125 yrs + old . Years ago my Dad said that dirt like that was dead . Is that true, and for how long would it take to be productive ? Soil is full of life, microbes, bacteria, mycelium. It's likely not "dead" but it may take a few years to balance out. Add a bit of manure to get some bacteria started and it'll likely be "living soil" sooner than later. This ^ it will be very productive give it a little help. Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime

Re: Can soil be Barren . Under a floor for 125 + YRS [Re: g smith] #8386533 04/13/25 11:09 PM 04/13/25 11:09 PM
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g smith OP trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Mt.	Still freezing every night here.I will leave it piled till I need it and see what shows up .(probably bind weed , chuckle ) You can ride a fast horse slow but you can't ride a slow horse fast .

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