| 
| 
 
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8385845 04/12/25 05:26 PM
04/12/25 05:26 PM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2010 Armpit, ak
Dirt
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Dec 2010
 Armpit, ak
 | 
Federal - 1982 Married Filing Jointly Tax BracketsTax Bracket	Tax Rate
 $0.00+	0%
 $3,400.00+	12%
 $5,500.00+	14%
 $7,600.00+	16%
 $11,900.00+	19%
 $16,000.00+	22%
 $20,200.00+	25%
 $24,600.00+	29%
 $29,900.00+	33%
 $35,200.00+	39%
 $45,800.00+	44%
 $60,000.00+	49%
 $85,600.00+	50%
 
 Current( I believe )
 Tax Bracket	Tax Rate
 $0.00+	10%
 $23,850.00+	12%
 $96,950.00+	22%
 $206,700.00+	24%
 $394,600.00+	32%
 $501,050.00+	35%
 $751,600.00+	37%
 
 $100,000 using CPI would be $30,000 in 1982.
 
 Good thing you were not working in the good ole days in the 70's and 80's.
 
 Who is John Galt?
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: beaverpeeler]
 #8385915 04/12/25 08:46 PM
04/12/25 08:46 PM
 |  
| Joined:  May 2010 MN
Steven 49er
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  May 2010
 MN
 | 
I just did a quick check to make sure I'm right, but the survivor gets 100% of the deceased spouses benefits if they wait until they're at full retirement age.I don't have a spouse, if I die it's all gone.  Neat. Federal - 1982 Married Filing Jointly Tax BracketsTax Bracket	Tax Rate
 $0.00+	0%
 $3,400.00+	12%
 $5,500.00+	14%
 $7,600.00+	16%
 $11,900.00+	19%
 $16,000.00+	22%
 $20,200.00+	25%
 $24,600.00+	29%
 $29,900.00+	33%
 $35,200.00+	39%
 $45,800.00+	44%
 $60,000.00+	49%
 $85,600.00+	50%
 
 Current( I believe )
 Tax Bracket	Tax Rate
 $0.00+	10%
 $23,850.00+	12%
 $96,950.00+	22%
 $206,700.00+	24%
 $394,600.00+	32%
 $501,050.00+	35%
 $751,600.00+	37%
 
 $100,000 using CPI would be $30,000 in 1982.
 
 Good thing you were not working in the good ole days in the 70's and 80's.
So you are saying two wrongs make a right? 
 "Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: charles]
 #8385939 04/12/25 09:22 PM
04/12/25 09:22 PM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio
SNIPERBBB
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Dec 2006
 Rodney,Ohio
 | 
It’s all gone the moment you pay it - like term insurance.  SS is not a savings plan.  It is insurance.  Many people do not understand this or take the time to learn about our SS.Go tell all the people saying "but its my money!" |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8385946 04/12/25 09:30 PM
04/12/25 09:30 PM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2010 Armpit, ak
Dirt
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Dec 2010
 Armpit, ak
 | 
What I'm saying is; things ain't nearly as bad as they were in the good ole days.  Taxes are not wrong. They are a necessary evil, if you have a government. 
 Who is John Galt?
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8385948 04/12/25 09:39 PM
04/12/25 09:39 PM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2006 Oregon
beaverpeeler
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Dec 2006
 Oregon
 | 
Dang Steven, best I don't mention that to my wife or she'll have you set up with one of her Colombiana friends. 
 My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8385950 04/12/25 09:46 PM
04/12/25 09:46 PM
 |  
| Joined:  Feb 2020 Indiana
Providence Farm
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Feb 2020
 Indiana
 | 
![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/04/full-53884-254923-1000001648.jpg)  Last year  over 2   Seems like taxes are under control and reasonable.   Let's not add in the 10k in property, sales, user taxes like gas, permits and fees.    I wish taxes were not payroll deducted and individuals had to sign and send  quarterly checks.  I would expect folks would be much more  happy about DOGE   if that were the case.     It would make it real to the general population seeing the money go out vs never getting it in the first place.   Add all the taxes I pay now  and it's   more than I made a year  when  bought my first house and got married..  
Last edited by Providence Farm; 04/12/25 10:29 PM.
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8386022 04/13/25 12:59 AM
04/13/25 12:59 AM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2006 Oregon
beaverpeeler
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Dec 2006
 Oregon
 | 
But hey, us retirees need you for this ponzi scheme.  Thanks! 
 My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: Blaine County]
 #8386099 04/13/25 08:43 AM
04/13/25 08:43 AM
 |  
| Joined:  Feb 2015 Iowa
trapdog1
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Feb 2015
 Iowa
 | 
Let's just get rid of it.  Keep old age benefits for current recipients.  Provide benefits to eligible folks with a birthday before X date.  It will give the younger workers time to prepare.  
 Eliminate benefits immediately for all but the worst disability cases.  And end that program going forward.
 
 Problem solved.
That might work, Therefore, it will never be pursued. |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8386186 04/13/25 10:53 AM
04/13/25 10:53 AM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2006 Oregon
beaverpeeler
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Dec 2006
 Oregon
 | 
Social Security was quite a help to me in College.  I was still in High School when my dad retired so I got benefits up until age 22 while attending Ag school.  $130/month freshman year and had increased to $180 by age 22.  Just enough to cover board and room.  Trapping and farming paid the rest. 
 My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8386192 04/13/25 11:05 AM
04/13/25 11:05 AM
 |  
| Joined:  May 2010 MN
Steven 49er
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  May 2010
 MN
 | 
Carl, one ex-wife is enough lol. 
 "Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: Blaine County]
 #8386195 04/13/25 11:10 AM
04/13/25 11:10 AM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2010 Armpit, ak
Dirt
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Dec 2010
 Armpit, ak
 | 
Let's just get rid of it.  Keep old age benefits for current recipients.  Provide benefits to eligible folks with a birthday before X date.  It will give the younger workers time to prepare.  
 Eliminate benefits immediately for all but the worst disability cases.  And end that program going forward.
 
 Problem solved.
Just takes another executive order these days.   
 Who is John Galt?
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: Steven 49er]
 #8386208 04/13/25 11:43 AM
04/13/25 11:43 AM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2006 Oregon
beaverpeeler
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Dec 2006
 Oregon
 | 
Carl, one ex-wife is enough lol.Smart man! 
 My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8386232 04/13/25 12:15 PM
04/13/25 12:15 PM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2007 40 years Alaska, now back to O... 
alaska viking
   "Made it two years not being censored"
 |  
|   "Made it two years not being censored"
 
 Joined:  Dec 2007
 40 years Alaska, now back to O...
 | 
 Thanks bp. I need to check that out. I think what I read on My SS. site was taking it upon the passing of the recipiant. And spouse had to be at least 60 y.o., and got 70% if taken before full retirement age.
 
Last edited by alaska viking; 04/13/25 12:16 PM.
 
 Just doing what I want now.
 
 
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: bblwi]
 #8386255 04/13/25 01:21 PM
04/13/25 01:21 PM
 |  
| Joined:  Feb 2020 Indiana
Providence Farm
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Feb 2020
 Indiana
 | 
PF, there would be millions of tax payers that would be willing to change places with you. At 6.2 % divided into 8772 you had 141,000K earned with SS taxes and with smart tax planning you paid only 13,400 of federal income tax or an effective rate of about 9.4% 
 Bryce
 It was late when I read this last night and I misunderstood what you typed I think?     Still not sure but I think  You used the ss tax that and worked backwards to  figure  yearly I come then used that to  figured the tax % I paid.     If so something was a little off my income was  higher from work. The farm generated income as well  So I paid a lower % yet.  Then after deductions  and  business expenses  I got  a good refund. So paid a much lower %.     Everyone needs to have a business or corporation and make investments.   Use the tax code to your advantage.
Last edited by Providence Farm; 04/13/25 01:23 PM.
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8386305 04/13/25 03:20 PM
04/13/25 03:20 PM
 |  
| Joined:  Dec 2006 Oregon
beaverpeeler
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  Dec 2006
 Oregon
 | 
In other words, learn from Trump! 
 My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
 |  |  |  
| 
| 
|  Re: Social Security, Taxes, Then & Now
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
 #8386319 04/13/25 04:16 PM
04/13/25 04:16 PM
 |  
| Joined:  May 2010 MN
Steven 49er
   trapper
 |  
|   trapper
 
 Joined:  May 2010
 MN
 | 
Carl, one ex-wife is enough lol.Smart man!That brings up something else.  If I die all that money that was taken is gone. I've said it more than once, if I had that 13 percent that has been paid into the program in my name and put it into an IRA there would be more than one million dollars in there that I could bequeath to my children. 
 "Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
 |  |  |  
 
 |  |