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Beaver enrager #8388374
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I have seen some beaver lures advertised with an enrager agent added. For the life of me, I don't have any idea what could be added to caster, that would really make a beaver mad. Any ideas. Thank you Mike

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In the book Johnny Thorpe; Interview with a Legend, Thorpe mentions buckwheat honey mixed in with castor as an enrager. I have always been meaning to whip up a batch and test it out but never have. He was very specific about the honey being buckwheat. I found some at a health food store but didn`t get it.


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Re: Beaver enrager [Re: Mmueller] #8388782
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Maybe it's like a "passion" ingredient in predators lures. Never understood that one either. Unless a coyote tries to mate the lure stick how would u know it caused a passion response??? Think it just sounds good and helps sales then gets passed along to others until it's just accepted as fact.
Always amazed how people will pass on information they have read or heard as fact without testing it or having known experience with subject matter.
I have seen some gland formulations cause what I perceive as a very strong territorial response in coyotes. That could be considered an enraged from my perspective.

Re: Beaver enrager [Re: Mmueller] #8388857
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Interesting thread! I just pulled my floats which are intended to draw & catch migrating beaver in the spring and were not set on sign. I did use an enrager lure as an experiment on a couple of floats and saw no action, My original thoughts were why would a traveling/migrating beaver be attracted to an enrager-type lure but without using it, how would I know?? I found what I assumed was that a non-enrager-type lure such as a plain/regular caster lures were much more attractive to the travelers! Beavers, as like coyotes, there is a time & place for certain lures!

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Re: Beaver enrager [Re: Mmueller] #8388913
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If any of u guys talk to a lure maker that makes an enrager beaver lure ask them how you know if an ingredient enrages a beaver. What do you look for to tell it's enraged.

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With coyotes I'm guessing when I see a bunch of kickbacks at a set it's mad but I don't know that for sure. It just as likely it could be just marking it saying I like this and I've been here and other times I've wondered if kickbacks can be a warning of danger. Hard to tell what the animals thinking

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Any of you pros on here make an enrager beaver lure? What reactions do u look for to know the beaver is angry

Re: Beaver enrager [Re: Mmueller] #8388941
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I have used Predator Control Groups Enrager Beaver lure with success. Interestingly it is the best Otter lure that I have ever used. It's still a mystery if the Beavers that I caught were enraged or not though.

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
With coyotes I'm guessing when I see a bunch of kickbacks at a set it's mad but I don't know that for sure. It just as likely it could be just marking it saying I like this and I've been here and other times I've wondered if kickbacks can be a warning of danger. Hard to tell what the animals thinking

I've seen it both ways. Sometimes they kick back because I believe they are mad, at least it is a very territorial response. But I have also seen them kickback as a warning and won't go near a set. Like when you've made a snow set and had a warm spell and the trap is melted out, I've seen coyotes and wolves both come along until they are close enough to see the melted out trap and then back off 30 to 50 feet and kickback all over the place, even Circling the set at that distance and making kickbacks all around it. I've seen them do the same with marten sets with a loud call lure, come from quite a distance but stay way back and mark all sports of things and kickback all over in what I assume is a warning.

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Thanks for sharing that.. Your snow helps you see more information than I normally can see. Ive had test go dead after a few kick backs and suspected the kick backs were a warning. The fact with your snow u can see they would never come closer seems to.point to the same thing. Again I appreciate the extra pieces of the puzzle.

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Originally Posted by Dewey S
I have used Predator Control Groups Enrager Beaver lure with success. Interestingly it is the best Otter lure that I have ever used. It's still a mystery if the Beavers that I caught were enraged or not though.

That is the lure I used on the floats with no success but I think the reason could lie in the fact that my floats target migrating 2 year old beaver for the most part. I don’t think that size & age of beaver is looking for a fight over territory. Whatever ingredient that is suppose to make a beaver lure into an “enrager” lure I would think would scare the crap out of young, strange beaver coming into a new territory.


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I agree Seldom. There can be some advantages to target a specific age group and reaction of a beaver under some circumstances.

However, my philosophy is to have the majority of beaver encounters to find the scent interesting and inviting enough so as not to be intimidating and actually cause some refusals.

The goal is to interest all so most will willingly want to spend some time in evaluating the odor longer and want to leave their calling card also before leaving.

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I struggle to believe that buckwheat honey is the enraging ingredient.

Any beaver lure with castor has the potential to encite a territorial response from an established beaver, so there's your enrager odor.


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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
I struggle to believe that buckwheat honey is the enraging ingredient.

Any beaver lure with castor has the potential to encite a territorial response from an established beaver, so there's your enrager odor.

Maybe beavers hate bees. Lol

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Or, buckwheat weed is a beaver’s wacky weed, the honey maybe just knocks off the bitter edge! LOL


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Originally Posted by Beaverdo
In the book Johnny Thorpe; Interview with a Legend, Thorpe mentions buckwheat honey mixed in with castor as an enrager. I have always been meaning to whip up a batch and test it out but never have. He was very specific about the honey being buckwheat. I found some at a health food store but didn`t get it.

I took instruction from JT in 1980, at that time he suggested that many items could be added to enhance beaver castor for beavers,,,,,, nutmeg, cloves, cinnamon, and at that time also Sweetflag.
From my experience using . I think just enough change in the straight castor is what makes the difference Ive also added cherry and apple oil,,, I couldn't tell much of a difference. But the big enrager,,, Was I accidently brought a bottle beaver castor with a bit of skunk,,,, The beaver tore up the banks in 5 foot circle... One might think that was helpful but in may experience the beaver would crawl up the bank everywhere not just where the trap was


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